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Investigators Repeatedly Warned Navy Ahead of Deadly Collisions
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 25, 2017

Posted on 08/27/2017 12:13:58 PM PDT by NCjim

Congressional investigators and military officials warned repeatedly about overworked sailors, shortened training schedules and budget cuts in the years leading up to two fatal collisions involving U.S. Navy ships, government auditors, lawmakers and Pentagon officials said.

The collisions in June and earlier this week, both Navy guided-missile destroyers operating in the Pacific, left 17 sailors dead or missing.

Three reports in the past two years by the Government Accountability Office, an independent watchdog agency, spell out endemic problems. They found through interviews and Navy studies that U.S. sailors overseas often arrive to their assigned ships without adequate skills and experience. They end up on duty for an average of 108 hours a week, instead of the Navy-standard of 80 hours, the reports found.

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1 posted on 08/27/2017 12:13:58 PM PDT by NCjim
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in the years leading up to two fatal collisions involving U.S. Navy ships

Obama's Fault.

2 posted on 08/27/2017 12:15:08 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Smells like BS to me - obvi job one is not to crash.


3 posted on 08/27/2017 12:20:25 PM PDT by major-pelham
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often arrive to their assigned ships without adequate skills and experience

I would bet they are very well trained in sensitivity and diversity though.

When will someone step up and say clearly that operational training is taking a back seat to training on living with and coddling sexually disturbed misfits?

4 posted on 08/27/2017 12:21:09 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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"MULTI-CULTURALISM will light our path..!!!! Get out of the way..!"
5 posted on 08/27/2017 12:22:02 PM PDT by gaijin
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For YOU..!!!?

I'll stand watch ANY time, skipper..!!!

I will..!!!!

6 posted on 08/27/2017 12:24:07 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ClearCase_guy

Obama’s government forcing the navy to waste too much time and money re-educating all navy personnel in the new rules regarding the use of personal pronouns. Even tried changing the names of all ratings eliminating the word “man.” Complete and utter waste of time, money, energy, resources, men and equipment. Complete and disastrous failure of command.


7 posted on 08/27/2017 12:24:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: gaijin
Welcome hommmmmme..!!!!!

Let's drive home RIGHT NOW..!!

8 posted on 08/27/2017 12:26:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: doorgunner69

Let’s see how Trump solves this problem. No more US paying for sex change operations. Then no more transgender med’s after the operations. With few and fewer transgenders in military no need for diversity training. Save money there too.

Also as good as making Mexico pay for the wall.


9 posted on 08/27/2017 12:27:48 PM PDT by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: major-pelham

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2143499-ships-fooled-in-gps-spoofing-attack-suggest-russian-cyberweapon/

“On 22 June, the US Maritime Administration filed a seemingly bland incident report. The master of a ship off the Russian port of Novorossiysk had discovered his GPS put him in the wrong spot – more than 32 kilometres inland, at Gelendzhik Airport.”

“After checking the navigation equipment was working properly, the captain contacted other nearby ships. Their AIS traces – signals from the automatic identification system used to track vessels – placed them all at the same airport. At least 20 ships were affected.”


10 posted on 08/27/2017 12:28:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Statues today - books tomorrow - the unmasking of totalitarian elites is starting...)
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11 posted on 08/27/2017 12:28:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

12 posted on 08/27/2017 12:32:35 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: NCjim; major-pelham

It seems like something else is going on besides fatigue.

No way those ships can get close to a Navy vessel without the vessel knowing.


13 posted on 08/27/2017 12:33:22 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Obama’s government forcing the navy to waste too much time and money re-educating all navy personnel in the new rules regarding the use of personal pronouns. Even tried changing the names of all ratings eliminating the word “man.” Complete and utter waste of time, money, energy, resources, men and equipment. Complete and disastrous failure of command”

Why can’t a 4 star marine secdef put an end to this shit..for Christ’s sake.


14 posted on 08/27/2017 12:34:08 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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Ok, I’m all about posting images in threads, but that was sickening.


15 posted on 08/27/2017 12:34:08 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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I’ll NEVER be convinced that having to deal with gender issues and having sailors who insist on making sexuality an issue doesn’t distract from training focused, cohesive and well-qualified crew.


16 posted on 08/27/2017 12:35:20 PM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: major-pelham

Smells like BS to me - obvi job one is not to crash.

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I agree.

But I do believe there’s a reason that no one in the US Navy has enough remaining integrity to admit.

Promotions in the officer ranks isn’t about competence anymore. It’s about compliance with the most idiot levels of PCism and SJWism.

So, there’s a good chance there are no more officers in the Navy capable of actually leading, but instead the Navy is filled with officers who are masters of the Diversity Training.


17 posted on 08/27/2017 12:38:17 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

I think the point is the Navy vessel knew (its electronics) but those that were supposed to know how to read them were either crashed on their feet or did not know how to read them due to very poor training. Example: new skippers no longer are sent to boat driving school at Newport but report directly to their boat without any training ... its all OJT.

The something else is the work sched reported in the story as 108 hour wk. Boat driving in the dead of a dark night is very monotonous - we use to have a key we had to turn every 15 minutes or a very load alarm would sound; it is easy to fall asleep.


18 posted on 08/27/2017 12:44:16 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Bs, Station 1 on the bridge or all in the brig,


19 posted on 08/27/2017 12:44:23 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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Inexperienced folks in Pacific. Too expensive to send experienced family guys on those tours. Lots of experienced folks taken out via Fat Leonard situation. Throw in the video game generation. My Navy family member says toddlers are preferable to 19 year old sailors. Etc.


20 posted on 08/27/2017 12:46:07 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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