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Organizers cancel right-wing rallies in San Francisco and Berkeley this weekend
Mercury News ^ | Aug. 25, 2017 | Casey Tolan

Posted on 08/25/2017 5:07:10 PM PDT by Innovative

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To: gaijin

what’s that picture of, one of Hillary’s rallys? hahaha!


21 posted on 08/25/2017 5:57:47 PM PDT by bitt (The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literal)
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To: semaj

As far as I know FR has not organized participation in any of these first amendment events...which is too bad because I first heard about FR during street protests around the 2000 election.


22 posted on 08/25/2017 6:02:16 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Bad move.Decent people should show up...IN NUMBERS...with nothing even remotely resembling a weapon...

And they will be beaten by Leftists who bring a lot of things that resemble weapons. "Law Enforcement" will stand down at the orders of the political authorities.

We have seen this movie several times before. We know how it turns out.

Open public events sponsored by "Right-wing" organizers in Leftist-dominated communities are a losing proposition. The Leftists will use violence to suppress any opposition and they have explicit support from local Governments to do so.

Decoy events which draw Leftists in "counter-protest" may be quite effective. When the "Right-wingers" cancel at the last minute, the Leftists will still show up to riot. And lacking their original targets, they may well turn on each other instead. They will also fight with the police. See the recent events in Boston for a worked example.

The conflicts that we see around us will not be settled by peaceful means.

23 posted on 08/25/2017 6:05:41 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: Nifster

As long as those on the Right side of this debate aren’t neo-Nazi nut jobs.

They could show up with M.A.G.A hats and carry Anti-Fascist signs, Anti-Communist signs, pro free speech signs and pro Trump signs.

The MSM and Antifa heads will explode.


24 posted on 08/25/2017 6:12:31 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: flamberge

In general I would say don’t fall for the bait.

If you DO show, arrange to do so with a lot of big tough bikers and truckers. Just plain fists, boots, and other muscle if needed can do a lot. Yank off a bunch of black masks. Whining about the police is passe. Calling on God isn’t.


25 posted on 08/25/2017 6:17:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Innovative

I wonder if its possible that the Patriot Prayer group can’t sue Pelosi and others for incitement through libelous means, or whatever. Politicians should be held accountable for putting in danger lives.


26 posted on 08/25/2017 6:20:17 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: aft_lizard

Forcing the left to obey the same rules they wish on the right, would be a sweet feat.


27 posted on 08/25/2017 6:23:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Lurker

The problem is the police in those areas are on Antifa’s side. And it’s California, where they don’t recognize self defense as a practical rule. Defend yourself against an attacking Antifa and you’ll be charged with a felony. Not a great idea if you have something to lose like a job, family, etc.


28 posted on 08/25/2017 6:23:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Zeneta

True that


29 posted on 08/25/2017 6:54:59 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Lurker

“Our side HAS to stop backing down from these thugs.”

South Carolina has a free speech rally this weekend in front of a confederate statue located in a cemetery. Nobody is backing down.


30 posted on 08/25/2017 6:55:10 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: flamberge; HiTech RedNeck; Nifster; BogusTimes

What if the/our side shows up as “Free speech” advocates.

But they carry Anti-Fascist signs?

They carry Anti-Communist signs?

They carry Anti-Nazi signs?

They carry Anti-racism signs?

They Carry Pro Free speech signs?

And

They carry Pro Trump signs?

Pro-America Signs?

The left will lose their minds.


31 posted on 08/25/2017 7:04:39 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: flamberge

I’d be willing to take a beating if it leads to America awakening to the truth about the Bolshevik threat to our freedom and liberty.


32 posted on 08/25/2017 7:05:59 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: Innovative

I understand the not wanting to subject yourself or others to seriously expected violence.

But here is the lie to it all:

“George Holland, the president of the Oakland chapter of the NAACP, said he thought canceling the rallies was “a good move.”

“If you believe in your cause, you don’t need to confront these people,” he said. White nationalists, he said, “don’t get any exposure unless it’s violent, and if they don’t get any exposure, they would probably disappear.”

George Holland is either speaking for or channeling the hard left, because neither of the “right wing” rallies that were previously scheduled were “White nationalists” involved.

The lie is - and it was successful in this case - to tie anything on “the right” to “White nationalists”, Neo-Nazis or “racists”.

We have to have a counter strategy to defend conservative “rallies” that have nothing to do with “White nationalists”, racists or Neo-Nazis.


33 posted on 08/25/2017 7:07:18 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: semaj
I’d be willing to take a beating...

Remember - "It is more blessed to give than to receive".

Martyrdom is greatly overrated. If you really believe that you should attend the next scheduled festivities in your area, you might want to bring a number of burly friends with you.

You might also stand off at distance to meet-and-greet the "visitors". Being in the middle of a crowd seems like a bad idea.

It would be best to immediately leave an area after an incident occurs.

34 posted on 08/25/2017 7:24:22 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: Trueblackman

“Why announce when you are going to show up, take a page from the Left’s book and just show up!”

Free speech flash mobs.

I like it.

L


35 posted on 08/25/2017 7:42:52 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: mac_truck
As far as I know FR has not organized participation in any of these first amendment events...which is too bad because I first heard about FR during street protests around the 2000 election.

I remember that. I took part in the protests in San Francisco organized by FR in 2000. A march with signs and chants through the financial district, there were a lot of thumbs-up and approval by onlookers and little disapproval. No violence against the FR members doing the protests. Not so sure what would happen in 2017, things have gotten uncivil lately.

36 posted on 08/25/2017 7:46:50 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

What ever happened to the “Protest Warriors”

This is when we need them.

http://www.protestwarrior.com/


37 posted on 08/25/2017 7:49:35 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

The Protest Warrior site appears to have been inactive for a decade.


38 posted on 08/25/2017 8:18:39 PM PDT by VietVet
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To: Wallace T.

“...where the police will not protect non-leftist protesters.”

Thinking that limits our right to peaceably assemble and practice our right of free speech. We can accept that restriction, and surrender our rights. Or we can exercise our rights and hope that the authorities fulfill their obligation to protects us, and sue the h*** out of them if they do not. Or we can plan our own security, and fight for our rights. It is kind of up to us. What are we willing to fight for? We have to pick our battles, but at some point we have to say: “Enough is enough! Get out of my way! STFU, it’s my turn to talk!”


39 posted on 08/25/2017 8:32:09 PM PDT by VietVet
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To: Donnafrflorida

“...one of the organizers. He’s saying they didn’t cancel.”

So perhaps the story saying they did was fake news, designed to disrupt the rallies?


40 posted on 08/25/2017 8:36:41 PM PDT by VietVet
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