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No guilty verdicts reached in Bunkerville ranch standoff (BREAKING NEWS!!!)
Associated Press via 13 Action News ^
| August 22, 2017
Posted on 08/22/2017 4:27:36 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Edited on 08/22/2017 5:59:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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LAS VEGAS (AP) - A federal jury in Las Vegas has refused to convict four accused gunmen in a 2014 standoff with federal authorities near the Nevada ranch of anti-government figure Cliven Bundy.
In a verdict that stunned Bundy supporters, the jury on Tuesday acquitted Ricky Lovelien and Steven Stewart of all 10 charges against them.
(Excerpt) Read more at ktnv.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bundy; bundyranch; bunkervilleranch; bunkervilletrial
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To: PJ-Comix
For all those cheering for the defendants: Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands? If these guys can just give them the finger and refuse to pay their fees, should law enforcement just give them a thumbs up?
Is the right all about "screw the cops" now?
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:39:37 PM PDT
by
TChris
("Hello", the politician lied.)
To: PJ-Comix
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:39:53 PM PDT
by
MarMema
To: PJ-Comix
The jury did not reach verdicts on four charges against Parker and
two charges against Drexler.
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So are there any indications that those charges will be tried again?
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:39:57 PM PDT
by
deport
To: TChris
You apparently drank the koolaid on this one...hopefully someone here has time to educate but it is called Agenda 21 and it is seeking to destroy ranches and farms bigtime under a socialist umbrella.
when I get more time I will try to find some backreading stuff for you.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:42:15 PM PDT
by
MarMema
To: PJ-Comix
I am guessing that people in the west are getting leery letting a SJW government persecute their neighbors.
Listen up judges, prosecutors, and attorney generals, when you disrespect and abuse the law regular American on juries are going to be very skeptical of your ethics, your honesty, the LEO/government bureaucrat testimonies and the merits of the law behind the charges. Americans are now very well aware of the ancient right of jury nullification enshrined in English Common Law and are starting to use it.
The choice between ballots or bullets is fast approaching.
If you want to know more: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/23929-jury-nullification-why-every-american-needs-to-learn-this-taboo-verdict
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:43:02 PM PDT
by
WMarshal
(President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
To: TChris
“Is the right all about “screw the cops” now?”
In short, yes
To: TChris
From what I understand the government jacked up the grazing fees so high that it was no longer profitable to raise cattle. They were trying to get them off the land.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:45:02 PM PDT
by
Husker24
To: blackdog
This is how we riot! take note, lefties.
To: MeganC
Color of the skies in your world?
To: TChris
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:46:26 PM PDT
by
MarMema
To: PJ-Comix
I remember listening to a live broadcast on the night they surrendered. Does anyone remember the name of the man who seemed a bit disturbed during that event. The interviewer had to keep calming him down.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:46:27 PM PDT
by
Revel
To: Jarhead9297
Are you serious? What’s your problem?
To: TChris
You know what I would do if somebody trespassed on my land? I’d call the local law enforcement...in this case the local sheriff. I can’t find where in the constitution it allows for the federal government to militarize its agencies and handle LOCAL legal matters by force. Yes...I know it was federal land, but that’s a whole other matter that isn’t allowed for in the constitution.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:47:34 PM PDT
by
lacrew
To: TChris
Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands?
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I expect there have been or should have been some changes in the codes/statutes/regs
but I don’t know. If Bundy is currently paying or not I have no idea.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:47:58 PM PDT
by
deport
To: TChris
“Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands?”
Do you mean “Just how should the government enforce grazing on lands owned by the people of the country?”
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:47:59 PM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
To: TChris
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:48:12 PM PDT
by
MarMema
To: TChris
For all those cheering for the defendants: Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands?
The ranchers have grazing rights on these lands that predate the existence of the State and the Territory that preceded it. The grazing fees are by law set at a rate that covers the land's management - and no more. The Federal govt was continually raising the grazing fees well beyond the rate needed to cover the land's management in an effort to force the ranchers out of business. Read up on the subject a little before posting your drivel next time.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:48:22 PM PDT
by
Garth Tater
(What's mine is mine.)
To: TChris
If every once in a while an FBI or DEA agent was jailed or fined for disobeying the law then maybe when they actually followed the law we should all support the feds.
But from what I recall, no agents were jailed or fined for Waco, Ruby Ridge, Fast and Furious, etc.
It's time for Trump to pardon Leonard Peltier as a way of giving a finger to an organization that has done as much bad as good over the last few years.
To: TChris
You are missing much of the “nuance” of Federal powerhungry over reach and the influence of corrupt Dingy Harry.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:48:48 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
(No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
To: Husker24
From what I understand the government jacked up the grazing fees so high that it was no longer profitable to raise cattle. They were trying to get them off the land. OK, that sucks. But an armed standoff doesn't sound like a particularly smart response.
It was always hippies and leftists who wanted to screw the cops, and it concerns me that I'm hearing that more often from the right. In fact, that was one of the key points of David Horowitz's awakening to conservatism, if you've read his book.
I am NOT an anarchist, and I don't support a "screw the cops" philosophy.
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posted on
08/22/2017 4:49:20 PM PDT
by
TChris
("Hello", the politician lied.)
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