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Is the right all about "screw the cops" now?
when I get more time I will try to find some backreading stuff for you.
“Is the right all about “screw the cops” now?”
In short, yes
Not the cops, but the BLM? You betcha.
Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands?
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I expect there have been or should have been some changes in the codes/statutes/regs
but I don’t know. If Bundy is currently paying or not I have no idea.
“Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands?”
Do you mean “Just how should the government enforce grazing on lands owned by the people of the country?”
But from what I recall, no agents were jailed or fined for Waco, Ruby Ridge, Fast and Furious, etc.
It's time for Trump to pardon Leonard Peltier as a way of giving a finger to an organization that has done as much bad as good over the last few years.
Their family owned the grazing rights before any “public land” was established. Should the law just give a thumbs up to negating prior contracts just because the government decides to grab some land and call it Federal property?
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And that brings it full circle and btw, sustainable development is hugely behind the climate change fear used to encourage people to embrace communism.
It's all very nicely intertwined.
I think you should reconsider. This particular trial was not about whether or not Bundy had the proper permits—he did not. However, the bind he was in was the government refusing to issue them as they had before, due to environmentalism.
But, still, I admit even that is open to much debate.
Still, the trial was about the following:
Do the citizens of this country have the right to protest against the government, and even be armed while doing so? Federal agents ordered them to stand down and leave and they would not. Many protesters were arrested because they were protesting on federal lands, and the government thought they should have been confined to a caged “protest area”, while they themselves had free range to follow their orders.
In this trial the government tried to make the case that the people have no such right, and what they did was threaten and aggrieve the federal agents, who were just doing their jobs.
The results seem to be in favor of the citizens. This time.
However, there is still the larger issue of Bundy, his operations, and whether or not a desert tortoise is more important than an American family. I say no.
Environmentalists, democrats and pretty much the entire Left says yes.
In the end, we still have a Left/Right struggle underlying it all.
“For all those cheering for the defendants: Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands? If these guys can just give them the finger and refuse to pay their fees, should law enforcement just give them a thumbs up?”
If you really think that what you wrote above is what this was all about, I have a bridge to sell you. This was all about Harry Reid and his land deals and the asshole former staffer he managed to get installed as the head of the BLM. As far as “screwing the cops,” when they break the laws they are sworn to uphold you betcha! And that goes double for the armed thugs in most Federal Agencies, with special emphasis on the BLM. The sad fact of the matter is that virtually EVERY Federal Agency has their own little “police force,” and they should ALL be disbanded.
Since you are not informed about the actual issue, you are forgiven. Now, henceforth do some research before you post.
I am not certain about this, but I believe that “grazing fees” were never ever charged in the past 100 years or so that the ranchers have been using these wild, otherwise worthless, desert lands. In my opinion, these lands should be given to the ranchers who make use of them, or to the states. There is no reason whatsoever for the fed govt to own these lands. Let the people who use them have them!
You should try to keep up. This family has been there for decades. Fedzilla, lead by a wanna-be commando at the BLM went after them hard in an unjustified manner.
“’....Is the right all about ‘screw the cops’ now?”
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Well, I hope it is about “screw the Stasi”, among other things. I suspect you haven’t been following this closely, so I’ll cut you some slack on this.
By issuing contracts and not breaching them whenever they consider it convenient.
I would think fees could be recouped in a civil trial.
“For all those cheering for the defendants: Just how should the government enforce grazing on public lands?”
Where in the Constitution is the govt authorized to confiscate our land and charge us to use it?