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Fighting Nazis doesn’t make ‘antifa’ the good guys
The New York Post ^ | August 17, 2017 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/19/2017 11:13:49 AM PDT by TBP

Fighting Nazis is a good thing, but fighting Nazis doesn’t necessarily make you or your cause good. By my lights this is simply an obvious fact.

The greatest Nazi-killer of the 20th century was Josef Stalin. He also killed millions of his own people and terrorized, oppressed, enslaved or brutalized tens of millions more.

Nazism was evil. Soviet Communism was evil. It’s fine to believe that Nazism was more evil than Communism. That doesn’t make Communism good.

Yet confusion on this point poisoned politics in America and abroad for generations.

Part of the problem is psychological. There’s a natural tendency to think that when people, or movements, hate each other, it must be because they’re opposites. This assumption overlooks the fact that many — indeed, most — of the great conflicts and hatreds in human history are derived from what Sigmund Freud called the “narcissism of minor differences.”

Most tribal hatreds are between very similar groups. The European wars of religion were between peoples who often shared the same language and culture but differed on the correct way to practice the Christian faith. The Sunni-Shia split in the Muslim world is the source of great animosity between very similar peoples.

The young Communists and fascists fighting for power in the streets of 1920s Germany had far more in common with each other than they had with decent liberals or conservatives, as we understand those terms today.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; charlottesville; jonahgoldberg; nazis; neonazis
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The enemy of my enemy may also be my enemy. It certainly is true in this case.
1 posted on 08/19/2017 11:13:49 AM PDT by TBP
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antifa being pro natzi doesnt help either:
https://youtu.be/derHRFGZ4NU.


2 posted on 08/19/2017 11:16:30 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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Liberals tell us there are 63 genders and anyone that doesn’t 100% agree with them could only be a nazi.


3 posted on 08/19/2017 11:22:30 AM PDT by boycott
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ANTIFA advocates violence to stifle speech they find offensive. They burn, smash and throw and use homemade blow torches. As far as fighting Nazis Stalin fought Nazs so i guess they could say they are Stalinesque.


4 posted on 08/19/2017 11:25:15 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Antifa is "anti-fascist" and also anti-Trump because Antifa believes - falsely - that Trump is a fascist. So, any friend of Antifa is an enemy of Trump.

Further, neo-Nazis (national SOCIALISTS) are not supported by Trump, but they think - falsely - that Trump is align with them.

We should not be surprised then if it is proven that The Punk Governor either allowed the conflict, set up the conflict, or intentionally neglected to suppress the violence - to hang the whole thing around Trump's neck.

5 posted on 08/19/2017 11:26:51 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Shut up, Jonah. America doesn’t have any Nazis. It has a few stupid guys who put on arm bands and give ridiculous salutes. That does not make them Nazis.

(I can’t stand Jonah.)


6 posted on 08/19/2017 11:28:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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ANTIFA - Fighting fascism by being even more fascist than the NAZIs!


7 posted on 08/19/2017 11:38:17 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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Charlottesville was almost as good as the Sunni-Shia conflict; two sets of bad guys fighting one another. But we can’t let the leftist Nazis, (fake, at $25 an hour) white nationalists and KKKlukkers be called right wing. it is untrue and unacceptable!


8 posted on 08/19/2017 11:40:46 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Antifa is "anti-fascist"

No, Antifa is Anti-First Amendment if your speech does not embrace their cause du jour.

9 posted on 08/19/2017 11:42:51 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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I saw this before, but it’s good to be reminded.


10 posted on 08/19/2017 11:47:16 AM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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They are Nazis. But they’re an insignificant minority of a minority of a minority.


11 posted on 08/19/2017 11:49:05 AM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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I do not think the costumed "Nazis" were the primary candidates for the attribution. Antifa appears to me to come very close to being the closest thing, yet seen in America; especially when one considers their fervor for forced uniformity of thought!

Compulsion For Uniformity

Lies Of Socialism

I agree that Jonah does not have a particularly good handle on the underlying subject.

12 posted on 08/19/2017 11:50:12 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Nice to have lucid articles from smart people instead of stupid ahistorical BS from the moonbats and propagandists of CNN, WAPO, NY Slimes, etc.


13 posted on 08/19/2017 11:51:08 AM PDT by Lent
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I’m waiting for the public schools in CA to start recruiting for Antifa Scouts instead of Boy Scouts.


14 posted on 08/19/2017 11:52:31 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I’ll bet there are a lot more People in this Country who are Registered Communists than there are Registered Nazis?

Anyone want to take that Bet? LOL


15 posted on 08/19/2017 11:53:36 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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The Antifa prove that they are good guys by bringing bats to rallies, which they intend to give to orphans who love baseball.

How can anyone doubt their virtue in the face of such selflessness?


16 posted on 08/19/2017 11:58:21 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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Sarah Barracuda posted that antifa stands for anti-first amendment. Makes sense.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3578327/posts?page=19#19


17 posted on 08/19/2017 12:18:01 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: SERKIT
Antifa is "anti-fascist" and also anti-Trump because Antifa believes - falsely - that Trump is a fascist. So, any friend of Antifa is an enemy of Trump.

Antifa are the fascists. Anti-FA, as someone else pointed out on another thread, is more accurately interpreted as anti-First Amendment.

18 posted on 08/19/2017 12:21:51 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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They don’t fight Nazis, they are Nazis in spirit.


19 posted on 08/19/2017 12:27:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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They say antee-fah. I say Aunt Teefuh. I like mine better.


20 posted on 08/19/2017 12:34:27 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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