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Here’s How Virginia State Police Facilitated Violence At Charlottesville
Daily Caller ^ | 8/14/2017 | Pax Dickinson

Posted on 08/15/2017 4:52:30 AM PDT by csvset

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This picture gives me a better idea what happened that day.

National Guard (or possibly feds? It’s unclear) had a viewing post atop the funeral home at the corner of 1st and Market, equipped with several cameras. That video will corroborate my story if released.

Those videos will probably never be seen by mere citizens. Who would you address to see them under the FOIA? That pertains to federal agencies. FBI ? Those videos would be helpful in prosecuting the Communists. Lol, that that would happen.

1 posted on 08/15/2017 4:52:30 AM PDT by csvset
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If Trump’s DOJ is serious about taking a thorough look at what happened at Charlottesville, the DOJ needs all the comms records of the parties involved, including LE, the city and state pols.


2 posted on 08/15/2017 4:55:38 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: csvset

Excellent post!

And why is the helo crash being kept under a cone of silence?


3 posted on 08/15/2017 4:59:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: csvset

Okay. Just for the record (to be sure I understand it correctly) the “Unite the Right” group had a legal permit that had been issued, then revoked a week before the event, then restored (presumably via some legal action) the day before the rally?

Why did the Virginia State Police declare it an unlawful assembly?

I understand that there is a possibility they may have decided that it was unsafe and mandated an end to the event, but to declare it an unlawful assembly?

Was it a misunderstanding by the Virginia State Police who may not have realized the permit was restored, and were operating on dated information?

Or were their actions due to liberal pressure from above?

Can anyone shed light on this for me?


4 posted on 08/15/2017 5:03:26 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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If I understand the diagram correctly, the police were stationed in such a way that rather than separating the two demonstrations, the demonstrators were contained in such a way as to maximize contact. Declaring that those who had made it to the relative safety of the fenced in area needed to disperse through the exits where the counter-demnostrators were massed by design at a time shortly before the rally began seems to me the way to best maximize friction between the two groups. Human idiocy is great, but I have a hard time believing that idiocy alone can explain the layout and the timing.


5 posted on 08/15/2017 5:09:38 AM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: csvset

I don’t watch television or read the papers, simply because I know any narrative generated is going to be favorable to the left on this.

I also don’t much trust search engines any more to deliver unbiased results (most specifically, not Google) so I haven’t even bothered to search on this.

Can someone summarize for me what the “Unite The Right” rally was for? (I am not going to wade through search page after search page saying it was a neo-Nazi rally to find a nugget of truth.

Of course, the truth may well be that it was a neo-Nazi rally, but I have learned it is a fruitless endeavor to discern the motives of anyone to the right of the radical leftists that rule the media and Democrat party by watching news or even using Google.

I wouldn’t mind hearing a Freeper summary as a starting point, rather than everyone was a skinhead.


6 posted on 08/15/2017 5:10:07 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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So were the helicopter crash deaths attributed to the driver in initial reports? The media was reporting that 3 people had died from the conflict (and 19 or so hospitalized).


7 posted on 08/15/2017 5:11:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared..)
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I’ve read that Punk McAuliffe declared the state of emergency at app. 10:30AM. If this is true, how is the one hour delay explained (the local PD notified the attendees in the park of the order at app. 11:30) Also why was Antifa allowed to riot - demonstrations become riots once violence begins - long after the SOE was declared?


8 posted on 08/15/2017 5:12:26 AM PDT by JonPreston
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Bookmark


9 posted on 08/15/2017 5:12:46 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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That I can understand completely. I accept that it could be due to malicious intent or to an inability or incompetency (we do PAY those people to evaluate exactly these kinds of situations and effectively disarm them, don't we?) to discern the consequences of choosing a certain geometry.

I am curious as to WHY they declared it an unlawful assembly.

10 posted on 08/15/2017 5:14:17 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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Can someone show me the party affiliation and primary voting records of these “alt-right” figures?

I’ve been told that Democrat politician and friend of Al Gore Junior, Fred Phelps, was an extreme right-wing bigot along with his “church” Westboro Baptist Cult and Lawyer Family. He was merely an agent provocateur who’s actions defamed Christians and their opposition to same sex marriage. He still got his digs in against the Iraq war by protesting at the funerals of dead soldiers.


11 posted on 08/15/2017 5:14:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared..)
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Shortly after all rally attendees were present in the park, word began to spread that a State of Emergency had been declared, presumably by Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe.
12 posted on 08/15/2017 5:15:22 AM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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I was thoroughly unimpressed by the Charlottesville chief of police. He couldn't answer the simplest question regarding a street closure without his "Action Plan" playbook, which he conviently did not have on him.

Here's a link to his press conference .

Charlottesville Police full news conference on weekend violence

The chief blatantly lies when states "We can't control what side someone uses to enter the park" @ the 6:20 mark.

13 posted on 08/15/2017 5:16:15 AM PDT by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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First of all, will someone please explain to me what the hell the “Alt Right” is? It seems to me that the term Alt Right is entirely a concoction of the left to paint some of us with a pejorative label and, for some reason, even conservative commentators have adopted the term. I suspect that if you asked 100 people what Alt Right means, you’d get more than 100 substantially different answers.

As to how the police dealt with the protest, have we seen even one instance in which the police dealt with ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, or any other “Resist Movement” protest in a similar manner - no matter the level of violence?


14 posted on 08/15/2017 5:17:19 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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The chopper crash occurred shortly after the car crash. The chopper crash was attributed to the riot, but it is not connected to the protest.


15 posted on 08/15/2017 5:18:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: a fool in paradise

How I despise those Westboro Baptists.

I counter-protested against them outside Arlington National Cemetery a few years back. I simply could not believe some of their signs.

That said, as despicable as they are, if they had a legal permit to protest, I cannot silence them.

The issue is, that right to Freedom of Assembly and Freedom of Speech is not reciprocated by the left, ever.

Ever.

Also, I am sick of this “alt-right” crap (as I assume you are by the quotes you used). This is just another attempt to corral all non-liberals into a common pen (throwing Tea Partyers and other conservatives into the same box with Nazis, even though Nazis are ideologically more in line with the Left and things like radical Islam)

I am tired of letting them control the language, but given they are 90+% liberal in the media, this is fully expected.


16 posted on 08/15/2017 5:21:15 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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See my post at #16. “As I stated, “alt-right” is a liberal construct designed to group all non-liberals together.


17 posted on 08/15/2017 5:22:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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Let there be no misunderstanding. Here's the person responsible for the "unlawful assembly" ploy.


Terry "The Punk" McAuliffe.

18 posted on 08/15/2017 5:24:31 AM PDT by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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19 posted on 08/15/2017 5:24:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rlmorel

Westburo is one extended family of lawyers who seek attention and financial payback when they are “wronged”.

Daddy Phelps ran for office as a Democrat several times and was photographed at least once with Al and Tipper.

It’s street theater. Did he believe the crap he spouted? Don’t know. Did the press use it to taint all opposition to homofascism in the church and classroom? Yes indeed.

And the press didn’t do much to educate audiences just what political party Fred Phelps was a part of.


20 posted on 08/15/2017 5:24:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared..)
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