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Federal court strikes down EPA rule key to Obama's climate agenda
Washington Examiner ^ | Aug 8, 2017 | John Siciliano

Posted on 08/08/2017 8:24:30 PM PDT by Mechanicos

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' 2-1 decision said EPA does not have the authority to enact a 2015 rule-making ending the use of hydrofluorocarbons commonly found in spray cans, automobile air conditioners and refrigerators. The three-judge panel said that because HFCs are not ozone-depleting substances, the EPA could not use a section of the Clean Air Act targeting those chemicals to ban HFCs.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: court; epa; fakescience; hfc; obama; regulations
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To: NonValueAdded

The prices still have not went down. $75 list price with a $40 co-pay for me.


41 posted on 08/09/2017 6:34:11 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: crz

“I think DAX meant that it cost us billions since it was brought.

At least I hope that is what he meant.”

Of course that is what I meant, I used cost as past tense. Context has meaning.


42 posted on 08/09/2017 8:24:08 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: Pikachu_Dad
The final ban on importing R22 is in effect. They are linearly reducing he import amount to zero by 2020.

This year was the last of the R-22 dry A/C condenser units to be had.
I was only able to get 4 & 5 Ton units by the beginning of July.

43 posted on 08/09/2017 9:51:18 AM PDT by fedupjohn (The Alpha Male Chosen By The People to #MAGA....President Trump...)
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To: BobL

Chemours was DuPont.

DuPont is not doing well and has sold off massive parts of their traditional businesses.

Denka bought a large chunk.

Chemours is a spin off.

Dow and DuPont are then ‘merging together as equals’ (ha ha(. - and then immediately splitting into three companies!


44 posted on 08/09/2017 4:19:00 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: scannell

The 0-admin phased out R22 aggressively. By Jan 2020 companies will no longer be able to import ANY R22.

The amount allowed to be imported each year is being decreased aggressively - hence the false high prices for a very cheap chemical.


45 posted on 08/09/2017 4:21:03 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Pining_4_TX

It makes me wonder if the propellants themselves were the more active ingredient and not the chemicals propelled by the propellants...I mean it shouldn’t matter by what means the chemicals get in....but if the inhalors worked better with the old propellants then perhaps the propellants should be looked at as possible treatments for common lung ailments!


46 posted on 08/09/2017 4:31:11 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

The propellants have no effect on the lungs.

The issue is/was the proper delivery of the correct amount of the active ingredients.


47 posted on 08/09/2017 4:43:17 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Enterprise

Thank you. I have a nebulizer, so I pretty much have to haul that out instead of using the stupid inhaler. It’s not something I can take with me, though. Hard to stuff a nebulizer in my purse. :-)


48 posted on 08/09/2017 8:55:31 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: mdmathis6

I suppose that’s possible. Whatever the new propellants are, though, they don’t propel much.


49 posted on 08/09/2017 8:56:44 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: Mechanicos
The three-judge panel said that because HFCs are not ozone-depleting substances, the EPA could not....

Yeah, and neither did R-12. What actually caused the "expansion of the ozone hole" was that Dupont's patent on freon was about to expire.

50 posted on 08/09/2017 9:18:50 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs...same thing)
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To: Mechanicos

I don’t get it. Don’t HFCS actually chemically break down when CFCS don’t? I thought that was the point. Protect the ozone layer by using alternatives to N2O and freon. HFCS are flammable though.


51 posted on 08/12/2017 9:45:25 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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