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US Marines Test All-Male Squads Against Mixed-Gender Ones – And The Results Are Bleak
The Federalist Papers ^ | 8/7/2017

Posted on 08/08/2017 5:17:25 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: Altura Ct.
US Marines Test All-Male Squads Against Mixed-Gender Ones – And The Results Are Bleak

Stuff like this and the Google memo - keep denying reality, liberals, it's still there and it's not going away.
81 posted on 08/08/2017 6:43:53 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Altura Ct.

82 posted on 08/08/2017 6:49:00 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: hecticskeptic

I would assume that the remaining 31% of the activities were equally performed, not that the mixed unit did better.


83 posted on 08/08/2017 6:49:01 AM PDT by PJBankard
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To: Altura Ct.

The Marine version of DACO Witch jn SERVICE.


84 posted on 08/08/2017 6:54:42 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Altura Ct.

‘risking the lives of a military unit in combat to provide career opportunities or accommodate the personal desires of an individual is not only bad, but very dangerous military judgment.’

gee, y’think...?


85 posted on 08/08/2017 7:01:34 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: wbarmy

“I have never been a supporter of women in combat units. If they want in, let them do the same PT test everyone else has to do.”

AGREE. They want to be “equal” to men; let them PROVE it.


86 posted on 08/08/2017 7:03:52 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

‘In most Hollywood movies I see, the small female soldiers can easily take on and defeat a muscular, 220 lb. man with karate moves.’

while applying makeup and cooking dinner for the kids at the same time...


87 posted on 08/08/2017 7:06:24 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: jdsteel
"With the VERY small percentage of women that might be able to do that it would only be due to special training, supplements and most likely steroids."

I made the comment about 81 mm baseplates previously to a woman during a similar debate and their immediate reply was yeah and there's a lot of men that can't do it. I shot back, you're exactly right, and those men are not in the Marine Corps Infantry...
88 posted on 08/08/2017 7:08:22 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Read an article from a commanding officer and stating integration also created some new challenges. For example, 9 soldiers with 1 female usually resulted in 5 wanting to protect her like a little sister, 3 wanting to date her and 2 just hated her for being there.


89 posted on 08/08/2017 7:13:59 AM PDT by baltoga
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To: Altura Ct.
If we're gonna slag her, we at least ought to show her:


90 posted on 08/08/2017 7:20:36 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Government should be done to cattle and not human beings." - John Milius)
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To: Altura Ct.

I recently saw a pic of the obstacle course from Navy OCS. The women have to scale smaller obstacles.


91 posted on 08/08/2017 7:23:57 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: FamiliarFace

I think there is little doubt that in general men and women have differences in physical abilities, endurance and other things.

I think there are also exceptions, on both sides - men who rank below the male-average on “combat readiness” tests, and women who rank above the female-average on those tests.

I think it likely that not all male enlistees as well as not all female enlistees are those exceptions (though I may be wrong on the later).

I think some portion of female enlistees are not exceptional, not above average for females in general. What portion? Who knows?

I think that means that gender-mixed teams will not match performance of all male teams no matter what,

UNLESS the male team is composed not of the most general male enlistees, but is somehow composed with a larger than average complement of males of below average combat readiness ability.

Then again, we could be wrong, IF, IF, IF the females most inclined to enlist and land in “combat” roles represent a larger than average (as far as the general population) share of females with above average physical abilities.

Am I trying to make a case for women in combat? No. I am stating questions I hope and expect our military officials are grappling with.

More than merely allowing women in combat, my preference is that no standards be lowered or changed in order to accomplish that. I think as long as that remains the case, there will be a minority of women who will be exceptional, above average compared to females in general, and some who will match the average performance of males, even if they don’t match the highest male performance.


92 posted on 08/08/2017 7:33:11 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: rbg81

A nit to pick, if you can bear with me: It’s not so much “Clown World” as it is the world of “the letter of the law is the once and final word on any subject” which allows us no recourse against the enthronement of corrupt principles in positive law.


93 posted on 08/08/2017 7:33:15 AM PDT by Mmmike
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you!


94 posted on 08/08/2017 7:45:22 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I just saw Atomic Blonde, and I was happy that they at least tried to make it more believable by picking a woman who is 5’11”, fairly sturdy, and rarely uses her bare hands in a fight. When an anorexic model is supposed to be able to knock a guy out with a single punch, it’s silly. When an Amazon is able to bash in a guy’s shin with a hot plate, or gouge his eye out with a wine bottle opener, it is at least a bit more believable.


95 posted on 08/08/2017 7:49:25 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Wuli

That’s what I thought Wuli. They destroyed their credibility by using combat troops against non-combat females. I don’t believe that women can match men in physical activity, but at least do a credible test to prove it or no one will believe your results.


96 posted on 08/08/2017 7:53:05 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: PJBankard
I would assume that the remaining 31% of the activities were equally performed, not that the mixed unit did better.

Perhaps.... or perhaps the tasks were of a subjective nature with no real definition of what was more effective. Thanks for the correction on the percentage.... 31%, not 21%.

97 posted on 08/08/2017 8:04:54 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: dp0622

Why don’t they publish male vs. female pugil stick training outcomes?


98 posted on 08/08/2017 8:11:10 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tyranny can hide within decorum.)
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To: Altura Ct.

There’s a reason there are no women in MLB, NFL, NBA, etc. That is that they can’t cut it. But, sure, we’ll put them in combat roles.

The insanity is stunning, and will prove deadly.


99 posted on 08/08/2017 8:22:32 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mmmike

My problem is that the “letter of the law” is applied in some circumstances (usually to White males) and totally ignored in others (usually for “protected” groups). Basically, it has become a two-tier society. Maybe it was always like that to some degree, but it feel like it has gotten worse.

The “Clown World” situation occurs when thousands of years of tradition, or just plain common sense, is thrown out the window because some victim group decides things should be different—regardless of the actual consequences for Society.


100 posted on 08/08/2017 8:25:09 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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