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Trump Got This One Right: Shutting down the CIA's ghost war in Syria.
Weekly Standard ^ | 07 August 2017 | Thomas Joscelyn

Posted on 08/01/2017 9:09:20 PM PDT by Lorianne

Earlier this year, President Donald Trump was shown a disturbing video of Syrian rebels beheading a child near the city of Aleppo. It had caused a minor stir in the press as the fighters belonged to the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement, a group that had been supported by the CIA as part of its rebel aid program.

The footage is haunting. Five bearded men smirk as they surround a boy in the back of a pickup truck. One of them holds the boy’s head with a tight grip on his hair while another mockingly slaps his face. Then, one of them uses a knife to saw the child’s head off and holds it up in the air like a trophy. It is a scene reminiscent of the Islamic State’s snuff videos, except this wasn’t the work of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s men. The murderers were supposed to be the good guys: our allies.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: beheading; cia; decapitations; joscelyn; military; nouraldinalzenki; syriarebels; syriawar; trumpsyria
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Ok fine, but when will we learn that no matter which side we support in we're still supporting bloody Muslims of one sort or another?

This is really not that hard to figure out. Read a few history books and - wham - it hits you over the head. Sunnis and Shias have been at each other's throats (literally) from almost the beginning of Islam. And each side dreams of a caliphate that theair side runs and everyone else is a heretic. And they have bloody, bloody battles over their religious differences. Always have, always will.

I'm with the President's decision on this but will he be the first person to actually realize that we cannot win a religious civil war between Muslims ... because we are not Muslims ... and because no matter which side wins they will be Muslims with a mandate to convert everyone else?

not that difficult

1 posted on 08/01/2017 9:09:20 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

I can see getting rid of ISIS - other than that we have no business being in the ME. It’s a hellhole and not worth a drop of American blood. If they want to kill each other in endless revenge wars - fine. Whatever.

But not with our money, our people, our treasure or one thin dime.


2 posted on 08/01/2017 9:14:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (To totalitarians an open inquisitive mind is more dangerous than a Marine with a rifle-James Mattis)
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To: GOPJ

Yes, and stop bringing them over here.


3 posted on 08/01/2017 9:15:44 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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To: Lorianne

John McCain’s war. He’s mad in the face about it too.


4 posted on 08/01/2017 9:15:49 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: Lorianne

I suspect we’re over there because they paid off the Clinton’s or something... but whatever it is - it has to end. Nothing over there is worth a drop of our blood.


5 posted on 08/01/2017 9:16:03 PM PDT by GOPJ (To totalitarians an open inquisitive mind is more dangerous than a Marine with a rifle-James Mattis)
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To: Lorianne

Should we help them kill each other? I know it’s sick but it’s no more worse than it is now.


6 posted on 08/01/2017 9:16:34 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: GOPJ
“Good” Arab Muslim = Barbarian
“Bad” Arab Muslim = Barbarian

“Moderate” PLO statesman = Barbarian with a tie
“Extreme” HAMAS fighter = Barbarian with a uniform

Hizbollah = Barbarian Army
Syrian = Barbarian
Iran “Moderate” leader = Barbarian
Turkish “Moderate” = Barbarian
Nusra Front Freedom fighter = Barbarian
“Radicalized” Muslim = Barbarian

What's the difference between a “Moderate” Muslim nd an “Extremist” Muslim?

The Extremist Muslim wants to kill you and the Moderate Muslim wants the Extremist Muslim to kill you...

7 posted on 08/01/2017 9:21:19 PM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: Netz

Very good.


8 posted on 08/01/2017 9:40:33 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Lorianne

F the CIA. F McCain. F the Fed. The US has no business in Syria.


9 posted on 08/01/2017 9:42:53 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: Lorianne
I'm all for shutting down the CIA entirely at this point (never mind Syria) - that agency can't be trusted any longer.
10 posted on 08/01/2017 9:46:08 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The U.S. Senate - where American freedom goes to die.)
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To: Lorianne

Assad is the best of some very bad choices.


11 posted on 08/01/2017 10:04:06 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Major Matt Mason

I believe that soetoro seeded the CIA with plenty of leftists and islamists these last 8 years.


12 posted on 08/01/2017 10:11:03 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: bray

Essentially he runs a minority coalition of all the non head choppy groups there and has always known that the head choppy ones need generational curb sandwitch beat downs.


13 posted on 08/01/2017 10:43:18 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Eagles6

The other aspect there is that you leave any of these Langley and Foggy Bottom pukes in one place for long and they often “go native”.


14 posted on 08/01/2017 10:45:08 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

Saddam was the same. Also Ghaddafi. And Mubarak. We have made some huge boners in MENA...


15 posted on 08/01/2017 10:47:29 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Eagles6

“Trump wanted to know why the United States had backed Zenki if its members are extremists. The issue was discussed at length with senior intelligence officials, and no good answers were forthcoming.”

...which makes your point regarding our government being infested with Leftists. They know they’re supposed to hate Assad and work to overthrow him...and that’s good enough for them.

One could say Trump ‘outed’ them by asking such a simple question.


16 posted on 08/01/2017 10:54:03 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: headstamp 2
Yes, and stop bringing them over here.

I know our US Constitution forbids banning a religion but is Islam really a religion? I say no. Assuming the argument can be made and validated by the courts that Islam is a cult made up by some pedophile madman from the deserts of the middle east in the 13 century AD; Islam could be banned in America. It should be banned in America with all mosques shuttered or bull dozed down. All muslims who won't swear off the cult of Islam and be an apostate must leave. Period.

If Europe did this now it might survive and maintain its culture. If not; it's a dead group of cultures walking. It's not a matter of when but only if and it will never improve there. Never unless Islam is banned there too. Period.

Sadly the idiot low info leftist mind likely won't allow them to do the right thing in those countries any more than they will here and that's the shame of it all right there. Leftism will ultimately kill us and our culture through ignorance and stubbornness and allow Islam to take over all western countries. Sad. Glad I won't be here to see it. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing the muslims will make slaves of the leftists. Slaves and sex toys to do their bidding. People with the education of a shovel will be telling all these academics when to bend over and take it up the butt and when to clean their toilets for a chunk of stale bread at the end of the day.

17 posted on 08/02/2017 12:16:04 AM PDT by Boomer (I'm offended by political correctness.)
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To: Lorianne

Under Obama, I opposed intervention in Syria. My position then was that Assad is a terrible person, but any alternative with a chance of victory is far worse. That situation has not changed, so my position has not changed. If we overthrow Assad, Syria will be no better for its own people and far worse for the West.


18 posted on 08/02/2017 2:48:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Eagles6
I believe that soetoro seeded the CIA with plenty of leftists and islamists these last 8 years.

It's worse than that. Barry's mother & possibly his grandfather fit the mold of CIA plants -- making Barry the Agency's pawn. Think about it.

19 posted on 08/02/2017 3:39:32 AM PDT by Tallguy (Twitter short-circuits common sense. Please engage your brain before tweeting.)
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To: Lorianne

Except this is neither a religious war nor a civil war

Its a multi- dimension proxy war between Saudi/Gulf and Iran, between Turkey and Kurds, between US and Russia, between Israel and Syria/ Iran
Religion is used as a recruiting and cohesion tool and political reform is used as a cover fior western occupation

but the real struggle is about occupying territory and controlling resources - which is aka “ power”


20 posted on 08/02/2017 3:57:22 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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