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‘Calexit’ backers confident about latest plan to leave the United States
Sacramento Bee ^ | July 31, 2017 | BY ANGELA HART

Posted on 07/31/2017 2:39:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: poinq

Take their damned Bee newspapers with them.


61 posted on 07/31/2017 4:13:11 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If, somehow, they were able to secede, I worry what they would do. How about invite China to build bases with landing strips and docks? They would also be able to swarm the Mexicans in and now we would have an even large "mexican" boarder to guard. Great situation to flood us with even more drugs. If we had a president with guts, it would be interesting what he would do. If, though, we had another obama, it would be crazy times.

62 posted on 07/31/2017 4:16:56 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: TWITTER, FACEBOOK, CNN, ESPN, NFL, NPR)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’ll be an interesting few minutes when one of these @holes comes to my door!


63 posted on 07/31/2017 4:17:09 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The entire region from Butte County north will separate from Cali and remain in the union.. with the water. This will not end well for the CalExiters.


64 posted on 07/31/2017 4:24:28 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can people in other states help them along with petitions indicating glad to see them go???


65 posted on 07/31/2017 4:30:36 PM PDT by daydreamer (Beware of false prophets (and stupid people))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

gonzalez could collect 1000000 times more Cal-Exit campaign funds in the other 56 states


66 posted on 07/31/2017 4:35:17 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As satisfying for all to have Calexit occur, it wont.

I just won’t. The USA and California are too inextricably linked.

It isn’t like Britain, which was independent and was part of the EU briefly. California started as part of the USA and will remain so.

Pretty much forever.


67 posted on 07/31/2017 4:48:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Nobody was going to let them go period.

It was a nonstarter to begin with and the Democrat parties’ desire for a racist slave empire cost the country almost 700,000 deaths and in dollars and cents, the U.S. government estimated in Jan. 1863 that the war was costing $2.5 million daily. A final official estimate in 1879 totaled $6,190,000,000. The Confederacy spent perhaps $2,099,808,707. That is approximately $226,395,504,868.00 in today’s money.

So much for the large percentage of federal taxes collected in the South. The entire Federal Budget in 1860 was only $170 million. That would have funded less than three months of expenses in the Civil War.

There was simply no way that the industrial North would allow the Southern half of a continental country just walk away.


68 posted on 07/31/2017 4:54:47 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Careful what you ask for... I’m not sure we can allow it. A lot of me wants them to go and good riddance, but it wouldn’t be just California. It would also be Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii, and it would cut off the United States from the Pacific Ocean, and close Pearl Harbor, and... things not to be taken lightly.


69 posted on 07/31/2017 4:58:45 PM PDT by libertylover (In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nah. Just break it up into pieces, make some pieces states and other pieces territories (the leftist sections), then purge all illegals. This way the leftist territories will have no say in our politics and the new conservative states will be red and good. I guess it’s too much to hope for to mandate liberals/leftists move to another country.

President Trump; we’re gonna need more walls.


70 posted on 07/31/2017 5:20:00 PM PDT by Boomer (I'm offended by political correctness.)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Nobody was going to let them go period.

Lincoln offered to Trade Virginia for Ft. Sumter. If Virginia would give him assurances they would remain in the Union, he would order the evacuation of Sumter. Those assurances came too late for him to recall the War Fleet he had already sent to attack the confederates surrounding Sumter.

It was a nonstarter to begin with and the Democrat parties’ desire for a racist slave empire cost the country almost 700,000 deaths and in dollars and cents, the U.S. government estimated in Jan. 1863 that the war was costing $2.5 million daily.

I'm confused. Didn't the South have slavery while they were in the Union? Didn't Lincoln say he would support the Corwin Amendment that would make slavery virtually permanent in the Union?

So how much would it have cost if the South's existing "slave empire" had remained part of the Union?

So much for the large percentage of federal taxes collected in the South. The entire Federal Budget in 1860 was only $170 million. That would have funded less than three months of expenses in the Civil War.

So it was rather insane to launch a horribly expensive war just to keep people under your control? So why did Lincoln do it? Probably because they didn't think it would be so bad when it began.

There was simply no way that the industrial North would allow the Southern half of a continental country just walk away.

And why was that? What was it to them if other people didn't want the "benefits" of being part of their Government?

71 posted on 07/31/2017 5:26:06 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: freedumb2003
I just won’t. The USA and California are too inextricably linked.

It isn’t like Britain, which was independent and was part of the EU briefly. California started as part of the USA and will remain so.

Pretty much forever.

I agree about their chances for independence, but there are people who'd disagree with you about the history.

Don't forget what it says on the flag:


72 posted on 07/31/2017 5:45:09 PM PDT by x
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To: Right Wing Assault

If California secedes, and does all of the things that you say, then you treat them as a hostile country, invade, remove their leadership, and station troops there for 70 years like we did in Germany and Japan.

Could work out nicely. ;-)


73 posted on 07/31/2017 5:51:19 PM PDT by sdthree
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To: freedumb2003

california may have started as part of the USA, but the USA definitely started without california.

More importantly, the USA started, grew, and thrived without california.

Thus, as a historical fact, the USA did not need california, so the USA does not always need california forever.


74 posted on 07/31/2017 5:55:59 PM PDT by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Millions of Mexicans will flow in and vote to leave the US and join Mexico ,LOL


75 posted on 07/31/2017 5:56:30 PM PDT by butlerweave (it's the children are)
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To: JBW1949

LOL. I’m sure they’ll be happy to be taxed at least 75%. :D


76 posted on 07/31/2017 6:04:57 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So this means the United States might NOT host the 2024 Olympics ...


77 posted on 07/31/2017 6:05:35 PM PDT by 11th_VA (#notmyappealscourt)
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To: 11th_VA

They’re not, it’s 2028.


78 posted on 07/31/2017 6:06:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Redmen4ever
whatever is within the broad discretion of states,

In truth what would that be? We have plenty of laws to cover political misbehavior but in my lifetime they have not been enforced against politicians or the favored rich.

79 posted on 07/31/2017 6:15:23 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The conservatives in California should join and vote this in - I seriously doubt it could be binding and would make the leftists a laughing stock...but if it could go through and be binding, then the conservative counties could request instatement as a new state. Go for it, folks.


80 posted on 07/31/2017 6:32:00 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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