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Supreme Court ruling on travel ban (another compromise ruling)
Supreme Court ^ | WEDNESDAY, JULY 19, 2017

Posted on 07/19/2017 11:11:49 AM PDT by Dave346

The Government’s motion seeking clarification of our order of June 26, 2017, is denied. The District Court order modifying the preliminary injunction with respect to refugees covered by a formal assurance is stayed pending resolution of the Government’s appeal to the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Justice Thomas, Justice Alito, and Justice Gorsuch would have stayed the District Court order in its entirety.

(Excerpt) Read more at supremecourt.gov ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; lawsuit; ruling; scotus; trumpscotus; trumptravelban
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To: gibsonguy
or just a Trojan Horse l don’t know either way he’s another Warren and a disaster.

I don't doubt the Bushes got just what they wanted with Souter and Roberts, stealth candidates, or Trojan horses. Trump seems to have just shown with Gorsuch that an administration can find a real conservative if that's what they want to find.

21 posted on 07/19/2017 11:40:39 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Dave346

Deep State Coup.


22 posted on 07/19/2017 11:41:32 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Dave346

Trump’s team did that on purpose having figured out this scotus chief justice likes to split the baby. They gave them an easy split. Real relatives versus organization straphangers.

Trump signaled this Monday, iirc, by beating scotus to the punch and allowing grandparents.


23 posted on 07/19/2017 11:41:39 AM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is important.)
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To: Dave346

The USSC has stayed the Hawaiian Court order. That means Grandparents etc are NOT allowed in.


24 posted on 07/19/2017 11:48:18 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: lowbridge

I’m always missing the blueberries.


25 posted on 07/19/2017 11:48:43 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: ptsal

The two brats from Ireland he adopted through Mexico.

My guess is George Bush II (Jeb’s Brother) KNEW this guy was a lib and appointed him deliberately to SCOTUS as a counterbalance to Alitto.


26 posted on 07/19/2017 11:49:55 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: ZULU

Roberts is a full-fledged flip/flip dong/ding.


27 posted on 07/19/2017 11:52:25 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: Raycpa

The problem with allowing grandparents in is that means you also must allow grandsons......young ISIS fighters could qualify.


28 posted on 07/19/2017 11:52:42 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ptsal

http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/jack-josie-roberts-john-roberts-children-family-adopted-inauguration-supreme-court-chief-justice-jane-ages/


29 posted on 07/19/2017 11:53:33 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: ZULU

http://adopt.com/ireland/


30 posted on 07/19/2017 11:56:36 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Leep

So, a grandpa that is past his prime but still hoping to receive his 72 raisins can’t strap on a bomb and kill himself and others?

What part of ‘terrorist’ countries does our lawmakers not understand . . . especially when it portends to “enemies foreign and domestic” . . .

Looking more and more like they may be the “domestic” part of the above.


31 posted on 07/19/2017 11:59:45 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: hotsteppa
The order below has two parts. One part deals with "close family." SCOTUS upheld the lower court on that.

The other part deals with who is a refugee with a bona fide relationship with a US entity. SCOTUS didn't rule on that. It sent that part back so the 9th Circuit can deal with it. Meanwhile, the district court's interpretation of "bona fide" is stayed. The issue of bona fide relationship will be back before SCOTUS no matter who loses in the 9th Circuit. The 9th Circuit now has motivation to act quickly, adopting the Hawaii court's interpretation of bona fide relationship (for refugees).

32 posted on 07/19/2017 12:06:41 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Raycpa
-- The granparent clause is not effective currently: --

No. You have that reversed. The government moved to have the grandparent rule stayed. SCOTUS denied the government's motion.

33 posted on 07/19/2017 12:08:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: xzins
Trump signaled this Monday, iirc, by beating scotus to the punch and allowing grandparents.

And "cousins" too, which I think is a huge mistake. You let in one Somalian and you have to let in all 17,000 of his "cousins".

34 posted on 07/19/2017 12:15:27 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

The fine print of Trump’s allowance said “of US citizens”.

I’m betting that’s what he’ll enforce.

A US citizen will have passed rigorous vetting.


35 posted on 07/19/2017 12:20:11 PM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is important.)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks, very confusing when dealing with double negatives and two separate issues. I assume the grandparent issue can come back to SC after 9th appeal ruling?


36 posted on 07/19/2017 12:21:00 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Dave346

Unintended consequences that liberals are so good at:

So, if I’m a government official and I know that letting in one person means I am letting in an extended family, wouldn’t it be safe to say that I will be more likely to say no especially if I have doubts about the extended family? Won’t my inquiries by necessity be expanded to cover more information about the person’s relationships? And if so, wouldn’t we be letting in fewer people?


37 posted on 07/19/2017 12:25:45 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: xzins
The fine print of Trump’s allowance said “of US citizens”.

I know, but still "cousin" can be pretty broad... unless it states "first cousin" or something.

I have 8 first cousins.... and god only knows how many "second" cousins and "cousins once removed".... must be many hundreds. And, I certainly couldn't vouch for many of them... never even met half of them.

38 posted on 07/19/2017 12:35:00 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: apillar

President Trump deserved better from “Republicans” on the court, but what should one expect from RINO Kennedy and fake conservative Roberts, who legalized Obamacare as a “tax”.

The Republican Establishment RINO’s are enemies of the President of the United States for sure, but enemies of “We the People of the United States” even more with their determination to flood the country with security risks for the sake of cheap labor.


39 posted on 07/19/2017 2:03:12 PM PDT by Spiridon
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To: Raycpa
-- Thanks, very confusing when dealing with double negatives and two separate issues. I assume the grandparent issue can come back to SC after 9th appeal ruling? --

The grandparent issue is settled under the temporary restraining order issued by SCOTUS in late June, as intepreted by the federal district court in Hawaii. That's a done deal.

Everything remains open "on the merits," to be argued whenver SCOTUS decides to get around to it, and they may decide to delay until the EO runs out, then declare the issue moot.

The back and forth before the case is decided on the merits involves preliminary injunction. SCOTUS has conclusivley asserted that the president may not exclude grandparents without a specific reason, at least until the case is decided.

To me, that is a bad sign. Generally speaking, courts interfere LESS on a preliminary basis, than they are willing to do on the merits. SCOTUS is supporting the Hawaii district court as it walks all over the administration's orders.

40 posted on 07/19/2017 3:01:51 PM PDT by Cboldt
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