Thanks, very confusing when dealing with double negatives and two separate issues. I assume the grandparent issue can come back to SC after 9th appeal ruling?
The grandparent issue is settled under the temporary restraining order issued by SCOTUS in late June, as intepreted by the federal district court in Hawaii. That's a done deal.
Everything remains open "on the merits," to be argued whenver SCOTUS decides to get around to it, and they may decide to delay until the EO runs out, then declare the issue moot.
The back and forth before the case is decided on the merits involves preliminary injunction. SCOTUS has conclusivley asserted that the president may not exclude grandparents without a specific reason, at least until the case is decided.
To me, that is a bad sign. Generally speaking, courts interfere LESS on a preliminary basis, than they are willing to do on the merits. SCOTUS is supporting the Hawaii district court as it walks all over the administration's orders.