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1 posted on 07/17/2017 7:19:55 AM PDT by gattaca
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Welcome to the red tape brigade of bureaucrats.


2 posted on 07/17/2017 7:22:57 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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"We can drop a line of retardant about three kilometers long, about a mile-and-a-half,"...

Well, there's the problem! Fires burn in square miles and they're trying to put out fires in kilometers X square miles. Confusion!

3 posted on 07/17/2017 7:24:14 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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“We’re from the government, and we’re here to help you.”


4 posted on 07/17/2017 7:24:16 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.)
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250K per day? Sounds like a lot of money until you figure in the damage caused of a an out of control fire per day.


5 posted on 07/17/2017 7:26:30 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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Didn’t this happen last year also?


6 posted on 07/17/2017 7:27:11 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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Deep State NeverTrumpistas in the Forset Service would rather let the forest burn down and blame it on Trump.


7 posted on 07/17/2017 7:27:35 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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8 posted on 07/17/2017 7:28:04 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say)
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When I lived in NM, Forest Service was using modified WWII bombers to carry the load.


9 posted on 07/17/2017 7:28:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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Me thinks Jim Wheeler developed the modifications for the behemoth under the Obama regime and assumed that Hillary would be POTUS and would certainly approve the 1/4 Million dollar a day airplane to reward California Democrats for putting her in office.


10 posted on 07/17/2017 7:28:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Evergreen started the 747 Supertanker program some years ago and never got it approved. Global is running into the same bureaucratic BS. BTW the Forest Service has approved a DC-10 for fire service. One helped extinguish a fire very near my home last Friday.


11 posted on 07/17/2017 7:28:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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“There’s only two things that can happen in a forest concerning fire:
1. It’s on fire.
2. It’s making more fuel for a fire.”


14 posted on 07/17/2017 7:31:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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The National Forest Service is a fever swamp of liberalism, or so I gather from reading accounts of them.


15 posted on 07/17/2017 7:31:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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None near important people’s homes:

https://www.geomac.gov/viewer/viewer.shtml

When that changes, you’ll see this plane in the air.


18 posted on 07/17/2017 7:37:48 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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Years ago, a California airship company almost built a firefighting airship, which would have been a game changer and saved many billions of dollars a year. But they went bankrupt.

Airships have a tremendous amount of lift, and because they can hover, they don’t need to drop it all at once, but can “rain out” a fire. They could also descend a wire guided fire hose, or even a wide, collapsible tube to drop a lot of high expansion fire fighting foam.

The supertanker 747 can carry 19,600 gallons of retardant or water. An airship would make a great complement to it. It would likely be just as fast or faster getting on site as well, as it can refill its tank by setting down on a lake or large open vat. And with engines on either side, it can travel at 40mph.


19 posted on 07/17/2017 7:41:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (HitlerÂ’s Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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President Trump, kick some ars in the U.S. Forest Service. Lots to do here in the US, maybe spending more time taking a look at the regulations of the Forest Service.
21 posted on 07/17/2017 7:43:12 AM PDT by Logical me
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This coincides perfectly with the “let it burn” mentality in the Forest Service bureaucracy.


22 posted on 07/17/2017 7:44:46 AM PDT by lewislynn
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When I worked for the United States Forest Service, it was guided by policies put into place by people who had been in WWII.

They had seen large scale death and destruction.

They didn’t want any of that in this country.

They have been replaced by people who want to save the trees.

The road to hell is paved by good-hearted people.


25 posted on 07/17/2017 7:51:20 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Maybe that this is a great story for CBS, after all they are ‘fake news’...not letting people know what is going on and not telling the truth in an article to let the people know what is really going on...

747 SuperTanker receives federal approval – Wildfire Today

wildfiretoday.com/2017/01/10/747-supertanker-receives-federal-approval/

Jan 10, 2017 - Above: The 747 Supertanker conducts a test drop at Colorado Springs May 4, ... to Jennifer Jones, a spokesperson for the U.S. Forest Service.


27 posted on 07/17/2017 8:06:35 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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on the ground fire fighters have a union?


37 posted on 07/17/2017 8:48:47 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (This time I am Deplorable)
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Why should we be the least bit surprised, the USFS is part of the the USDA, about which President Eisenhower remarked: “ It’s hard to be a farmer when you are 1,000 miles from a farm and your plough is a pencil!”
I guess the other question is, where is the Secretary of Agriculture here?
President Trump’s “problem” is that virtually none of his cabinet picks have one tenth the energy and willingness to fix stuff as he does.


38 posted on 07/17/2017 8:57:02 AM PDT by vette6387
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