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Back to the Center, Democrats
The New York Times ^ | July 6, 2017 | By MARK PENN and ANDREW STEIN

Posted on 07/06/2017 11:50:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The path back to power for the Democratic Party today, as it was in the 1990s, is unquestionably to move to the center and reject the siren calls of the left, whose policies and ideas have weakened the party.

The last few years of the Obama administration and the 2016 primary season once again created a rush to the left. Identity politics, class warfare and big government all made comebacks. Candidates inspired by Senator Bernie Sanders, Senator Elizabeth Warren and a host of well-funded groups have embraced sharply leftist ideas. But the results at the voting booth have been anything but positive.

Central to the Democrats’ diminishment has been their loss of support among working-class voters, who feel abandoned by the party’s shift away from moderate positions on trade and immigration, from backing police and tough anti-crime measures, from trying to restore manufacturing jobs. They saw the party being mired too often in political correctness, transgender bathroom issues and policies offering more help to undocumented immigrants than to the heartland.

Americans are looking for can-do Democrats in the mold of John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton — leaders who rose above partisanship to unify the country, who defended human rights and equality passionately, and who also encouraged economic growth and rising wages. That is the road back to relevance, and the White House, for the Democrats.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; communists; dnc; dncstrategy; second100days; socialists; statists; trump45
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"The path back to power for the Democratic Party today, as it was in the 1990s, is unquestionably to move to the center and reject the siren calls of the left, whose policies and ideas have weakened the party."

The bolded part is the kernel of what the Left is all about. The rest of it can be summed up as: "How do we fool enough of the rubes by pretending to be in the middle?"

21 posted on 07/06/2017 12:07:39 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is so disloyal to their base, a real turning away from progressivism and the great new America that is possible. They apparently care only about winning, rather than the many great ideals of progressives. How can the Times possibly be this way? Oh, the huge manatee.


22 posted on 07/06/2017 12:08:27 PM PDT by polymuser (There's a yuuuge basket of deportables.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The NYT is so full of crap I don't understand how their writers and editors aren't often hospitalized for eating crap sandwiches morning, noon, and night.

There has never been a time when democrat fascists were "in the center". There were times, brief as they were, when the democrat fascists properly read the populist sentiments of the majority and therefore claimed to represent the "center", but even during those brief intervals they couldn't hide the fact that they were nothing but self-proclaimed "elite" clique of corrupt wealthy bastards and perverts who built their fortunes on every sort of criminal activity from the slave trade to the opium trade in China.

Democrat fascists don't give a damn about average working people who have absolute fits of anger when anything threatens to slow the pace at which they're slaughtering average people in the womb. They're a bunch of brain damaged, demon possessed, perverts who don't care about the US or US citizens any more than they care about ants on the sidewalk.

JMHo

23 posted on 07/06/2017 12:09:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Even if the Democrats “move back to the center,” it will only be the leftists adopting the Islamic practice of Taqiyya.

And BTW, if — as the leftists claim — America is bad because slavery, why aren’t they demanding the liquidation of the Democrat Party, with all mention of it removed from history and its assets used to pay reparations?


24 posted on 07/06/2017 12:12:30 PM PDT by Maceman (Let's ban Muslims temporarily -- just until non-Muslims can freely practice their religions in Mecca)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fortunately this will never happen. Their moonbat base will never allow it. They are rabid, and f***ing INSANE!


25 posted on 07/06/2017 12:13:11 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The problem is the messenger. Mark Penn’s a huge loser.


26 posted on 07/06/2017 12:13:29 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: JBW1949

No. It means they need to hide their liberalism, like Bill Clinton did. That’s what they are saying.


27 posted on 07/06/2017 12:13:44 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Central to the Democrats’ diminishment has been their loss of support among working-class voters, who feel abandoned by the party’s shift away from moderate positions on trade and immigration, from backing police and tough anti-crime measures, from trying to restore manufacturing jobs. They saw the party being mired too often in political correctness, transgender bathroom issues and policies offering more help to undocumented immigrants than to the heartland.

The newest democrat SCAM is to run people in conservative districts WHO ARE APPLE PIE CONSERVATIVE: VETS, NRA MEMBERS ETC. They're doing this in order to regain control of Congress. Nothing more. They're not changing their ideas or goals...

Democrats like Schumer, Pelosi, and the rest of 'em have NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER IN BECOMING A CENTRIST PARTY.

This is a scam.

Do NOT fall for the wounded vet who is totally wonderful - who dems recruited to play for a fool... They don't back him or want him or his ideas - he's only a path for power for their extreme left-wing agenda. When democrats have the House they'll do all the usual hateful leftist crap...

It's no surprise the New York Times is helping democrats to make the scam work - attempting to pull the wool over our eyes. If the New York Times was honest - and they're NOT - they would interview some of the democrat leadership and see how many of them want to tack right... I'm betting NONE OF 'EM.

28 posted on 07/06/2017 12:14:06 PM PDT by GOPJ ( MSM Snowflakes: if you don't like President Trump's tweets don't read 'em.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Central to the Democrats’ diminishment has been their loss of support among working-class voters, who feel abandoned by the party’s shift away from moderate positions on trade and immigration, from backing police and tough anti-crime measures, from trying to restore manufacturing jobs. They saw the party being mired too often in political correctness, transgender bathroom issues and policies offering more help to undocumented immigrants than to the heartland.

The newest democrat SCAM is to run people in conservative districts WHO ARE APPLE PIE CONSERVATIVE: VETS, NRA MEMBERS ETC. They're doing this in order to regain control of Congress. Nothing more. They're not changing their ideas or goals...

Democrats like Schumer, Pelosi, and the rest of 'em have NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER IN BECOMING A CENTRIST PARTY.

This is a scam.

Do NOT fall for the wounded vet who is totally wonderful - who dems recruited to play for a fool... They don't back him or want him or his ideas - he's only a path for power for their extreme left-wing agenda. When democrats have the House they'll do all the usual hateful leftist crap...

It's no surprise the New York Times is helping democrats to make the scam work - attempting to pull the wool over our eyes. If the New York Times was honest - and they're NOT - they would interview some of the democrat leadership and see how many of them want to tack right... I'm betting NONE OF 'EM.

MARK PENN and ANDREW STEIN and in on the scam - or they're liars or fools...

29 posted on 07/06/2017 12:14:46 PM PDT by GOPJ ( MSM Snowflakes: if you don't like President Trump's tweets don't read 'em.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The “siren call” to suicide for the demonrats has come ceaselessly from crap news shills like the Slimes. This disaster is of their own making.


30 posted on 07/06/2017 12:16:12 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Rush Limbaugh occupies the center.

How are those brain-dead perverts ever going to get there?


31 posted on 07/06/2017 12:21:57 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: eaglestar

Every time Maxine goes into one of her rants, someone should put a cape around her, gently pat her on the back and slowly walk her off the stage.


32 posted on 07/06/2017 12:26:50 PM PDT by daler
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Left's primary objectives:

-- Destroy traditional American Judeo-Christian based values
-- Demolish the gift to the world of American Exceptionalism
-- Render the Constitution irrelevant

and the Left's ideology are being rejected and consistently defeated on many fronts. The Left continues to lose many of their foundations of power:

-- American voters have defeated the Left's control of most State Legislatures and governorships
-- American voters have defeated the Left's control of the Legislative Branch (both Houses of Congress)
-- American voters have defeated the Left's control of the Executive Branch
-- American consumers, lead by President Trump and with the support of internet and talk-radio resources, are closer than ever before to defeating the Left's control of the media

Defeating the Left's iron-fisted control of education (K-12 through university) is a much more difficult challenge and is going to take some time, but this, too, must be accomplished.

Because the Left's voting base and many of the Left's leaders are an emotional train wreck incapable of introspection and rehabilitation, the Left's breathtakingly consistent losses are likely to continue ... though some on the Left are just beginning to realize there are significant problems with denying reality and with denying human nature (the powerful innate desire for freedom).

33 posted on 07/06/2017 12:33:59 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The democrat party is a coastal/urban assortment of malcontent special interest groups. JFK wouldn't even recognize these vermin.

Exactly right.

The democrats core problem is not only their extreme leftist philosophy, it is their deep rooted strategy of identity politics.

Their cstrategy is to divide the population into 'tribes' and keep those tribes at war with political foes, the nation, the constitution, common sense and even other tribes.

Notice that the democrats politicking is always based on creating unhappiness, dissatisfaction, division and then ranting about fighting the status-quo.

We never hear them campaigning on the ideas of unifying the nation or talking about the things that we have in common or ways to bring us together.

That is why they promote the concept of diversity.
They want as many splinter groups as possible.

But their creation of special interest groups has basically reached the saturation point and they have become more and more radical in attempts to expand their voter base through the creation new tribes.

It was fairly easy to sell the idea that blacks constitute a distinct group with unique interests.

It is a much different matter to convince the general population that there are 5, 10, 15 or 20 different sexes that deserve special consideration.


34 posted on 07/06/2017 12:36:25 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Islam is Islam. Democracy is the train we ride to victory - Turkey President, Recep Erdogan)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More fake news from the NY Slimes.


35 posted on 07/06/2017 12:36:46 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (President Trump is not a Republican suffering from post traumatic press syndrome...!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As my dad and my granddad said they voted for a few Dems in local elections in Connecticut. Ella Grasso was a family friend, dad had her husband as a principal. The state senator was very pro business and very anti income tax. William ONeil was business friendly...


36 posted on 07/06/2017 12:36:58 PM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: barmag25

...more left turns than NASCAR...

Yes, that’s right.

And also they hope to parrot Republican positions.

Look at John Ossoff. He never mentioned the word “Democrat” and focused on “waste in government” and “fraud due to duplication of current programs.”

Well, that’s just a smoke screen for not saying what you’ll really do. It probably meant: continue to grow the spend side of government, but make a modest effort to reduce fraud.

In other words: posturing to be good stewards of the public trust while doubling down on gubment gimme dats and more Obama destruction of the culture.


37 posted on 07/06/2017 12:40:17 PM PDT by poconopundit (FR: Self-Reliant Lovers of Liberty who can't stop the Chatter)
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To: dsc

I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING RL since 1991, he is far from the CENTER,


38 posted on 07/06/2017 2:00:13 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235- '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM FLYING BRICK)
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To: glennaro

Some on the left, those who are purely in it for the power, understand that human nature is intractable therefore a large part of the population will have to be killed off, as many as it takes until only those with dysfunctional natural characteristics remain. And it will have to be done continually as normal humans will continue to be born. They do believe that when they are in control they will concentrate technological development to the point that they can modify human nature in the womb. There are two problems with that. Once they gain the control they seek, technological innovation will cease and the New Man they hope to create by genetic modification will prove to be unviable and/or sterile.


39 posted on 07/06/2017 2:21:38 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Did you read any of the readers comments on the NYT site? Wow, they aren't moving to the center that's for sure. I pray to God these "vermin" do not ever get the seat of power again.

I am making one last plea to my Democrat Reps, DeFazio, Merkley and Wyden to please help fix the ACA. I do not want single payer as I fear when the democrats are in charge of administering who gets what care, if they find out I am an R, they will deny, they are very vindictive.

40 posted on 07/06/2017 2:41:26 PM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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