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Mueller adds muscle for Russia investigation
Axios ^ | June 11, 2017 | Mike Allen

Posted on 06/11/2017 2:30:13 PM PDT by be-baw

"The Worst Thing That Happened to Donald Trump this Week" — Paul Rosenzweig, on the Lawfare blog: Special counsel "Robert Mueller has hired Michael Dreeben, on a part-time basis, to help with his investigation. Dreeben, a deputy in the Office of the Solicitor General, has argued more than 100 cases before the Supreme Court. His specialty has, for the last 20 years, been criminal matters and he has an encyclopedic knowledge of criminal law."

Be smart: Mueller is amassing the talent arsenal you'd build to bring criminal charges.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axios; coup; coupplots; dreeben; michaeldreeben; mueller; robertmueller; scotus; softcoup
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To: RummyChick
"He is not special prosecutor. Special council"

Semantics, nothing more. They operate on purely partisan missions with virtually no rules.

41 posted on 06/11/2017 3:32:56 PM PDT by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: be-baw

I guess there is no limit on what these “investigators” can spend..... with our money. Hire another super expensive special counsel.

They are angry, so they are pulling out all the stops. Its not about truth, but agenda.

Pray. It seems that those who oppose Trump, since the campaign began, fail.


42 posted on 06/11/2017 3:33:24 PM PDT by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: 82nd Bragger

Sessions needed to be able to focus on the contents of Comey’s office in order to give smoking guns to all the other deep-state cases he’s building. He knew Russia would go nowhere.


43 posted on 06/11/2017 3:34:01 PM PDT by txhurl (Time to blow the Queen and King off the board, DJT, and by your birthday, or on it!)
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To: Baynative

Actually...I dont think it is semantics. Gov. has regs. Different position


44 posted on 06/11/2017 3:34:36 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Baynative

You may be right. Did Cursory search. Cant do in depth.


45 posted on 06/11/2017 3:37:40 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: M Kehoe
This whole “Special council Mueller” thing might blow up in the Democrats face.

That does sound plausible;

<><> ONE B/C THE DEMOCRATS ARE STUPID AND DESPERATE....THEY'RE LIKELY TO SCREW IT UP.

<><> TWO B/C TRUMP HAS ALWAYS BEEN UNDERESTIMATED......AND EVENTS HAVE SHOWN, YOU SHOULDN'T REALLY DO THAT.

46 posted on 06/11/2017 3:42:32 PM PDT by Liz ( Liberalism: standing on your head, then telling the world that it's upside down.)
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To: JBW1949

The President cannot be charged with a crime from within the Executive Branch.


47 posted on 06/11/2017 3:50:57 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: be-baw
Why it matters: "(Dreeben) He is quite possibly the best criminal appellate lawyer in America (at least on the government's side). That Mueller has sought his assistance attests both to the seriousness of his effort and the depth of the intellectual bench he is building."

National Law Journal: "The move signals that Mueller is seeking advice on the complexities that have arisen already in the investigations, including what constitutes obstruction of justice."

48 posted on 06/11/2017 3:52:54 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: 82nd Bragger

>>I think its quite possible a silent coup has been attempted.
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Do you think it has succeeded? Or will succeed?


49 posted on 06/11/2017 3:54:43 PM PDT by Kalamata
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To: 82nd Bragger

>>Soft Coup’ on Trump, Hiding in Plain Sight
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I don’t know if anyone has yet posted this, but I thought this was an interesting article:

Soft Coup’ on Trump, Hiding in Plain Sight

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/08/soft-coup-on-trump-hiding-in-plain-sight/


50 posted on 06/11/2017 3:57:16 PM PDT by Kalamata
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To: M Kehoe

“This whole “Special council” thing might blow up in the democrats face.”

Well yes if it wasn’t Mueller and it was someone objective. Make no mistake Mueller is gunning for Trump and no one else. Trump needs to replace Mueller with such a person if he is to survive IMHO.


51 posted on 06/11/2017 4:01:14 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: RummyChick

main difference appears to be the President can fire a special counsel, not a special prosecutor.

Here’s what I had found that was half way decent.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/special-prosecutor-democrats-want-no-longer-exists/


52 posted on 06/11/2017 4:01:45 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Dave W

“Sessions did not appoint Mueller. Remember, he recused himself on anything Russia.”

He recused himself over nothing, the man is a wimpy, that has helped create this “Special Council’ insanity. He is too busy chasing Reefer madness in Colorado and not being a pit bull.


53 posted on 06/11/2017 4:02:56 PM PDT by heights
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To: Peter ODonnell; TigersEye

Let’s hope he can Putin a full day’s work, and take plenty of time, no Russia to judgement. We don’t want any truble.

Gotta give peter an A for effort


54 posted on 06/11/2017 4:05:40 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Dave W

He can’t fire the special prosecutor. It is out of his hands.

Who can fire the “Special Counsel”?


55 posted on 06/11/2017 4:06:19 PM PDT by heshtesh ((New Yorker for Cruz))
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To: stylin19a

Thanks for that article.

Here’s a key paragraph: ““There are Department of Justice regulations for preserving autonomy, but none of that prevents the special counsel from being fired by Trump for any reason whatsoever,” Persily said.”


56 posted on 06/11/2017 4:08:22 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: be-baw

Once this machinery revs up it won’t stop until Trump is deposed or someone is in jail.


57 posted on 06/11/2017 4:10:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: All

As l’ve said before Sessions recusal may end up being one of the great blunders in American history. The Rats set the trap and he jumped into it.


58 posted on 06/11/2017 4:14:51 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: plain talk

Rosenstein can replace him with someone else. He would have to fire Rosenstein. Thus ,perhaps why Noble said rosenstein should be fired as well

LORDY..it will hit the fan if trump does that. Fireworks galore


59 posted on 06/11/2017 4:19:02 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Jim Noble

President Trump can’t fire Robert Mueller on his own under the terms of Mueller’s contract, but the attorney general does have that authority. If the president wanted Mueller gone, then, he could simply instruct attorney general Jeff Sessions to fire him.

At that point, Sessions would have to decide whether this duty should rest with him or whether it should be up to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Sessions has recused himself from the Russia investigation, and so the decision of whether to fire Mueller should go to Rosenstein.

It would then be up to Rod Rosenstein, the man who hired Mueller in the first place to decide whether he should comply with the president’s orders and fire the special counsel. While the president could not bypass Rosenstein and fire Mueller himself, he could fire Rosenstein and replace him with a deputy attorney general who will agree to fire Mueller.

In fact, this is precisely what happened under President Richard Nixon in October 1973 in what has come to be known as the Saturday Night Massacre. Nixon wanted to fire Archibald Cox, the independent prosecutor who was investigating Watergate. He ordered his attorney general, Elliot Richardson, to fire Archibald Cox, but Richardson refused and instead resigned. Nixon then ordered the deputy attorney general, William Ruckelshaus, to fire Cox. Ruckelshaus also refused and resigned. Solicitor General Robert Bork was subsequently sworn in as attorney general, and Bork was finally the one to fire Cox.

President Trump, then, only has the power to order his subordinates to fire Robert Mueller, but if they were to refuse, he could simply replace them with someone who would follow his orders and fire Mueller.

However, Trump firing Robert Mueller would be such an extraordinary turn of events that it would almost certainly lead down the road to impeachment.
Firing an independent counsel would be seen in Congress as an attempt to interfere with the ongoing investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election.


60 posted on 06/11/2017 4:25:20 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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