California, New York, Washington unite to back climate pact

Associated Press ^ | Jun 1, 2017 8:38 PM EDT | Kathleen Ronayne

[Olog-hai]

Three Democratic governors said Thursday they won’t let the United States back away from a commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, despite President Donald Trump decision to withdraw from an international pact.

“This is an insane move by this president,” California Gov. Jerry Brown said, blasting the decision as “deviant behavior from the highest office in the land.”

Brown joined Gov. Jay Inslee of Washington state and Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York to form the U.S. Climate Alliance to uphold the Paris climate agreement, a pact involving nearly 200 nations aimed at slowing the warming of the planet. The three states already belong to an emissions reduction pact of states and cities worldwide, but Thursday’s action marked a direct stand against the Trump administration and a formal commitment to upholding the targets of the Paris agreement.

Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy and Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe also expressed interest in joining the new pact.

“We governors are going to step into this cockpit and fly the plane,” Inslee told reporters. “The president wants to ground it — we’re going to fly it.” …

[nopardons]

And how long was the writing of the Constitution, till the CM...hmmmm?

You're mixing apples and oranges! And Just because Max and Engles came up with that tripe in 1848, it wasn't even tried anywhere until much much later.

Human nature doesn't change, only technology does. Still and all, there were things that no matter how brilliant, well educated,or understanding of mankind the FFs were, they couldn't imagine/anticipate. Still and all, they were amazing men!

[TXBlair]

Unfortunately, these three clowns aren’t capable of piloting a tricycle, let alone a plane.

This won’t go well.

[EinNYC]

Andrew Cuomo of NY is a bona fide libtard jackass. His policies are a libtard’s wet dream, founded on emotions rather than facts. We know that Jerry Brown of CA is way beyond nuts. What remains to be discovered is why CA residents keep voting him in, unless they are seriously insane themselves. The other guy I never heard of, but by his actions and associations, one must conclude that his mental ship has sailed. How dare these state governors give themselves airs to think they can take over federal policy if they don’t like what the duly elected President does? Aren’t we supposed to be a Union, not 50 disparate states?

[Olog-hai]

Well frankly, to your original point in post #51, I think that the Founding Fathers could indeed have seen how debased morals could become by reading about how it happened in the past, from not only the Bible but also other historical sources, not to mention the many prophecies of a return to the “days of Noah” in the Gospels. Benjamin Franklin warned of this when he answered “A republic, if you can keep it” when asked what the Founding Fathers had created; John Adams and George Washington in particular warned repeatedly about morality and religion being the primary supports of the USA.

Back to Jefferson in 1819: he was warning of the subverting of the Constitution by such power-minded people in his letter to Spencer Roane, and it was he who described the Constitution as a “felo de se” (suicide pact) if this were permitted to go on. He blamed it on the appointment of Supreme Court justices versus the ability of the people to choose them, saying “whatever power in any government is independent is absolute also”. So it was already starting to happen back then.

[Phil DiBasquette]

They don’t have the authority to confer anything on Illegals but they do

[nopardons]

True, very true, but I do find it somewhat amusing, that you threw in the old roue, lousy husband, and far worse father, Ben Franklin, in a post mostly about morals. ;^)

And whilst we're at it, though Jefferson ( and yes, others ), did see Adams ( my favorite of those 2 ), as a prig...it was, in point of fact, Jefferson, who not quite as "dirty" a pol as Burr, and EXTREMELY filthy, underhanded political fighter and worse.

But NONE of them ever imagined that this nation would be invaded, steathily, with the intentions of destroying the entire fabric and nature of what they had set up.

[Ray76]

New York Governor Andrew M. Cuomo, California Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr., and Washington State Governor Jay R. Inslee today announced the formation of the United States Climate Alliance, a coalition that will convene U.S. states committed to upholding the Paris Climate Agreement

With input from all participants, the U.S. Climate Alliance will also act as a forum to sustain and strengthen existing climate programs, promote the sharing of information and best practices, and implement new programs

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/new-york-governor-cuomo-california-governor-brown-and-washington-governor-inslee-announce

Cuomo states that New York, California, and Washington will convene an alliance of states to make an agreement with foreign nations, and that this alliance will implement new programs.

“No State shall, without the Consent of Congress... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign power” U.S. Const. art. I, § 10, cl. 3

The states do not have authority to make agreements with each other or with foreign countries yet here are three governors conspiring to do so.

[Olog-hai]

Well, it is indeed possible and likely none of them saw the usurpation of morals to today’s degree within the timeframe it occurred. It would be fair to base it on the length of time predecessor nations and empires had existed, and the onset of moral decay in those.

Of course, now I’m reminded of Lincoln’s Lyceum address, which was from 1838:

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. …

Jefferson had already warned of alien and failed governmental ideas festering in DC during his time, as well. Not too far off would be the moral failures. Nobody was as free as the USA in terms of governmental restraint; it was the moral restraint at the level of the people that was supposed to be the great pillar of support, at least in theory.

[hsmomx3]

The Mayor of Phoenix, AZ is not giving up either. He’s a tax and spend idiot!

[Beagle8U]

“They want to “fly the plane” into a mountain, like that lunatic German pilot”

Merkel?

[jazzlite]

...”the word dumbass pops in to my head.”...

Deep State treason pops into my head.

[cgbg]

The governors do have a constitutional right to sign state legislation taxing their residents so high that every single tax-paying citizen leaves the state.

Make my day, govnuhs!

[windsorknot]

We’ll see what happens when citizens of these socialist states get the final bill for their profligacy.

[mikey_hates_everything]

Let ‘em! The remaining businesses in those states will be put on the hook to pay for it before they finally flee.

[Alberta's Child]

There's a reason why these governors (in particular) are all bent out of shape over Trump's decision to withdraw from the Paris climate treaty.

These states have spent the better part of the last 50 years doing their damn best to chase major industries to other states -- through excessive taxation, regulation, etc. As a result, the leaders of these states see destructive Federal laws (like ObamaCare) and U.S. obligations under international treaties (like the Paris treaty) as a mechanism to level the playing field between their own awful business climates and the business climates of the states where these industries have fled over the years. In effect, the Paris treaty drapes the same giant anchor around the neck of Texas and South Carolina that New York and California have chained to themselves years ago.

[GoldenPup]

California, New York, Washington unite to back climate pact

“THE UNITED DINGBATTS OF AMERICA”.

[central_va]

States can voluntarily comply with Paris Climate Agreement or any other “carbon” emission standards they want. They cannot enter into treaties with foreign governments.

[mewzilla]

Axis of Weasels, the US division.

[mewzilla]

For anyone understandably irate at my state, at least the blue bits of it, rumor has it NYS is fixing to lose another House seat in 2020. We lost 2 after 2010.

[Nifster]

Let them pay with their taxpayer dollars...no federal money should flow to them to make up for it