Posted on 06/01/2017 10:40:47 AM PDT by Jim W N
In a few minutes, watch LIVE as President Donald J. Trump makes a statement regarding the Paris Accord.
All right. Although, I haven't seen it in these words that any or all treaties can be "unilaterally withdrawn by the president" which is more blunt and to the point.
Moving on, the media is now blabbering about Trump being partially in with qualifications. If it's something like we get same deal as China and India being exempt until 2030 ...I'll have to mull that one over. I guess we will find out within 1 hour.
I heard yesterday on Fox News that 20+ senators, including McConnell, sent the President a letter, urging him to reject this Paris treaty.
I was very encouraged to hear that and hope that the President will regard the wishes of his base and those in Congress who oppose this globalist money-grab.
He can either please us/do the right thing, or please his idiot daughter and be reviled forever.
Once a treaty has been ratified by the Senate, a president can still withdraw unilaterally I believe, although the US Constitution says nothing on the matter of withdrawing from treaties. There was a lawsuit brought by Senator Goldwater in 1979 over President Carter withdrawing from the mutual defense treaty with Taiwan. The Supreme Court declined to decide the case, saying it was a political matter between the POTUS and Congress.... which left Carter’s action standing. There was a lawsuit filed after President Bush withdrew from the ABM treaty with Russia (which really had been a treaty with the USSR), but I can’t seem to find out online whether that was ever resolved. I imagine if the SCOTUS had actually heard and decided the case it would be easy to find on the web, so it may be that they left Bush’s action to stand in that case, too.
This was covered by Rush yesterday in detail.
It’s not a treaty it’s an accord. An agreement on common goals and intent. But because of the Treaty of Treaties it is supposed to be followed just as if it was a treaty once Obama signed it. However, the Treaty of Treaties has never been ratified either. So The Paris Accord is essentially a BS-layer cake which lawyers will attempt to bully the US into following unless Trump publicly states his intention to not abide and to withdraw Obama’s signature. At that point the member nations of the Accord and climate-scam lawyers have no grounds to penalize or sue the US.
Mark Steyn replacing Rush is counting down the minutes until the announcement. Saying he has to get out New York before it floods, warning those on Indian Ocean islands to flee! LOL!
https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=822091
“...In House debate last week, Republicans argued that past presidents have terminated dozens of treaties without consulting Congress. Kucinich pointed to an 1835 House vote blocking President Jackson from pulling out of a treaty with France....”
“...In 1979 the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, R-Ariz., sued President Carter over his decision to terminate a mutual defense treaty with Taiwan when he established diplomatic relations with the Beijing government. The Supreme Court, without ruling on the constitutional issue, vacated or threw out an appeals court ruling in favor of Carter and ordered it sent back for reconsideration. Four of the justices said it was a political matter that should be decided between Congress and the president.”
Relax. If Trump were going to stay in, he wouldn’t be drawing this out. Trump is performing slide of hand on a much bigger scale. Everyone look here while I do something over there. And when he drops the bomb on the Paris Accord, I suspect that he will also be dropping a bomb somewhere else, like leakers.
And that there is called precedence.
It's out there I saw it the other day. I believe I read in a summary excerpt of the article that a lower court threw out or the administration won the case on the merits.
His idiot daughter has his best interests at heart above all else.
If she is persuaded withdrawl is what wins votes in Michigan and Pennsylvania (and never EVER forget, they matter, you don’t) then she will recommend withdrawl.
Loyalty is gold. Ideology is a dime a dozen.
Appreciate the direct YouTube link. I don’t do Faceplant.
And, again, it is illegal, either in EO form, or in Senate ratification form, because it is unconstitutional, and, therefore, null, void, and unenforceable regardless of what Trump does. Of course I hope he rejects the Paris Accord, but we are a nation ruled by law (the Constitution) not man. Trump is NOT the final word if what he says & does creates an unconstitutional treaty.
All on Twitter, insiders and advance word: we’re OUT.
“Bad deal,” not “thought out” by Obama,” etc.
This president has massive testicles.
He’s the funniest today than I heard him before. My husband and I were ROARING!!
Can someone summarize blow by blow for the cubicle bound, please?
Lib meltdown ahead of announcement: “worst human on earth.”
You know this is good stuff comin.
ONE MINUTE!!!!
“This president has massive testicles.”
Really, what does he have to lose? It’s an economic drag, the economy is where his base and the new voters want him to go. The side of socialism, which hates this move, already burns with white-hot hatred of his very existence...they can’t hate him more. This is a rather simple political calculation for him. The nominal half that hate him just have one more thing to put in their dumb-ass chants. Otherwise, no down side at all.
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