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1 posted on 05/31/2017 8:21:29 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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Man refuses to reveal his iPhone passcode and sentenced to 180 days contempt of Court. Claims he already provided it. Another man claims he legitimately forgot his passcode is given a pass in another court in the same state. — PING!


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2 posted on 05/31/2017 8:24:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

The “rest of the story” is missing.


3 posted on 05/31/2017 8:24:32 PM PDT by soycd
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To: Swordmaker

The 5th Amendment was repealed? When did that happen?


4 posted on 05/31/2017 8:25:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Swordmaker

Good for him.

I hope he has enough means to take this higher.

Eventually he should win.


5 posted on 05/31/2017 8:29:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: Swordmaker

I thought that being forced to provide evidence against yourself was unconstitutional.


6 posted on 05/31/2017 8:30:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Swordmaker

“Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted”

how is 6 months inprison not radically excessive for a password??


9 posted on 05/31/2017 8:34:00 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Swordmaker

After Mr. Wheeler does 180 days will this judge repeat the process? How long can the judge hold him for contempt? The rest of his life?


15 posted on 05/31/2017 8:56:46 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Swordmaker; All

let’s say a person has 2000 devices, each with a separate passcode.

Then is it reasonable to expect that person to know and keep track of all 2000 passcodes, and be able to retrieve them all from memory (in the limiting case), while under duress of incarceration and being accused of felony crimes of any sort?

What if you happen to meet a politician on day 1 for lunch, and then get arrested on day 2 by the government for allegedly dealing state secrets? Meanwhile some or all of your devices have been in state police custody during your arrest and are therefore subject to damage and tinkering by the state?

(I do not understand the reasoning of the ruling in the general case...)


24 posted on 06/01/2017 12:44:05 AM PDT by SteveH
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According to liberals (and many republicans), the founding fathers

* didn’t have internet, so speech can be regulated on the internet
* didn’t have modern weapons, so the 2nd amendment doesn’t apply to those
* didn’t have phones, so modern communications can be spied on
* didn’t have computers, so you can be forced to provide digital evidence against yourself

I guess it makes sense that they want to eliminate modern power sources and go back to living like it was the 1700s. On the plus side, without electricity/computers/phones/internet, the government won’t have the opportunity to violate as many of our rights.


25 posted on 06/01/2017 5:14:58 AM PDT by LostPassword
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