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“The case is the first time that we’re aware of that says you need to get a (U.S. Army Corps of Engineers) permit to plow to grow crops,” said Anthony Francois, a lawyer for the Pacific Legal Foundation. The libertarian-leaning nonprofit fights for private property rights and limited government.

OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!

1 posted on 05/24/2017 8:21:58 AM PDT by sodpoodle
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To: sodpoodle

Property ownership and rights are a myth


2 posted on 05/24/2017 8:23:17 AM PDT by z3n
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To: sodpoodle
What part of the 8th amendment that these liberal fascists wave around concerning excessive fining do they not understand?!
3 posted on 05/24/2017 8:24:15 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: sodpoodle

Go check the production history on the property.

The property has been tilled in the past. It’s in the USDA records at the county and state level.


4 posted on 05/24/2017 8:24:38 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: sodpoodle

Nice California. Tax the hell out of someone who works hard for a living and actually contributes to society.

Idiots.


6 posted on 05/24/2017 8:27:37 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs
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To: sodpoodle
He plowed his field; now he faces a $2.8M fine

"Wickard."

7 posted on 05/24/2017 8:30:09 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: sodpoodle

Just when you think things have gotten absolutely ridiculous and insane, sh*t like this happens to prove things are beyond ridiculous and insane!!!


8 posted on 05/24/2017 8:30:27 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: sodpoodle

Communist California, so what do you expect? Let them starve themselves while the good people get out.


9 posted on 05/24/2017 8:30:55 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and thse religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: sodpoodle

If you ever think you really own your home or property stop paying your taxes for a few years.


13 posted on 05/24/2017 8:42:27 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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14 posted on 05/24/2017 8:48:03 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: sodpoodle
The term "waters of the United States" should be limited to navigable waters that can actually be used in interstate or foreign commerce. Trump should redefine them as such while awaiting passage of a bill by Congress cements this into law. The idea that anything that affects interstate commerce is a power grab by the Fed's.
18 posted on 05/24/2017 8:54:58 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: sodpoodle

Agricultural ripping or plowing is all part of the same process—preparing ground for planting.


19 posted on 05/24/2017 8:57:50 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Deportation mayhem is just birthing pains for a new America.)
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To: sodpoodle

gotta make up for the loss due to sanctuary city penalties somehow- Bet they go after catholic churches next- operating without prior approval by satanic organizations- $2.9 million fine! Christian bakeries- Not prominently displaying homosexual advertising in their front windows $3.0 Million dollar fine!


24 posted on 05/24/2017 9:11:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: sodpoodle

Sure takes the fun out of farming.


29 posted on 05/24/2017 9:42:22 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Army Corp Engineer Matthew Kelley started this in an assertion that earth was tilled 3 feet deep which would result in massive silting in wetlands. A mechanized survey of estuary pools then established sedimentation levels supporting contention that only normal tillage of 4 to 7 inches was employed. The cease and desist had been issued in error.

Now ACE insisted a permit was needed to operate a farming operation, claiming jurisdiction over operations upon the farmland. In contention since 2013.


33 posted on 05/24/2017 9:54:36 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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35 posted on 05/24/2017 10:02:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
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40 posted on 05/24/2017 11:24:11 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: sodpoodle

Trump must eliminate the US Army Corp of Engineers.


46 posted on 05/24/2017 11:39:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: sodpoodle

He violated the new “mini mountain range” rules:

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/22880

Here is a excerpt:

“The report concludes that if the EPA and Corps interpretations were allowed, “most if not all plowing” would be considered a “discharge of a pollutant” and require a federal permit.”


51 posted on 05/24/2017 12:40:33 PM PDT by shotgun
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