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To: reasonisfaith

No it demonstrates REALITY. If I tell you beer is alcohol not a nutrient that’s not an agenda, that’s the truth. American yoga as practice in every gym in the English speaking world is NOT a religion. And there’s no agenda there, and thinking the truth is a nefarious agenda is a sign of serious mental issues.

Why would yoga instructors provide any pointless “consent”? Again it’s the 21st century, everybody in class has a smart phone, they can look up the history on their own. Meanwhile they’re doing exercises NOT worship. Subsequently they treat it the same way as the spin classes and step classes and Zumba and every other EXERCISE class at the gym.

Really “informed consent” would only be necessary for a religion. Because you really can’t worship without knowing what in blazes your worshiping.


136 posted on 05/20/2017 3:12:40 PM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: discostu

I think what we really need is mullahs in minarets in every city doing the morning call to prayer on loudpeakers. Just to help people wake up in the morning - like an alarm clock - so there’s nothing religious about it at all. (Besides, not that many people understand Arabic anyway.) People gotta have some time to know when to rise and shine, afterall!


138 posted on 05/20/2017 3:17:56 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: discostu
Because you really can’t worship without knowing what in blazes your worshiping.

That infers that intent is involved in worship and in order to form the intent to worship one would have to have free will. Shirley you're not implying that we have free will!?

142 posted on 05/20/2017 3:23:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: discostu

You might want to check with the experts:

“Spiritual practices such as transcendental meditation, healing touch (involving “subtle energies”), acupuncture, or Reiki may at times be offered to Christian, Muslim, or Jewish patients as part of alternative or complementary medicine programs (and even as part of standard therapy in some cognitive-behavioral therapies). Practitioners may present these spiritual practices with an almost evangelical zeal to patients who are desperate for help after allopathic medical treatments have failed. Patients from conservative Christian or Muslim groups may know very little about such practices, which are rooted in Eastern or New Age religious traditions and may directly conflict with their religious beliefs.”
HP’s not knowledgeable about or insensitive to conservative Christian beliefs may impose these foreign spiritual practices on patients without fully explaining their origins and without providing traditional Christian alternatives more consistent with patients’ beliefs (such as prayer, visit with a chaplain, access to religious services or religious literature like the Bible). Devout Muslim patients may likewise be offended when spiritual practices rooted in Eastern or New Age religious traditions are offered to them. Although there is little research on how often this occurs, my sense is that such practices are not at all uncommon in alternative and complementary centers at many major hospitals and medical centers in the United States today.”

Koenig, Harold MD, Spirituality in Patient Care: Why, How, When, and What Templeton Press; Third Edition, Revised and Expanded edition: June 1, 2013, p.149.


143 posted on 05/20/2017 3:25:02 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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