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Why conservatives shouldn’t mourn Le Pen’s loss
Red Alert Politics ^ | May 8, 2017 | By Robert Petrosyan

Posted on 05/08/2017 9:02:52 AM PDT by b4its2late

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To: b4its2late

Le Pen did have a populist, Left wing economic agenda and some other non-conservative positions. In that sense, this author is right. She’s not an American-style small government conservative. But sometimes you have to smash the mold and shake things up. She would have done that.


21 posted on 05/08/2017 9:41:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Ohioan

Well said.


22 posted on 05/08/2017 9:47:29 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: RayChuang88
In short, a large number of Muslim refugees now in France may be leaving within the next few years. \

And you believe that why? What is their motivation to leave? Why would a conquering horde reverse course and leave when complete conquest is well within their grasp?

23 posted on 05/08/2017 9:48:22 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: b4its2late

Macron is as much a socialist as LePen on economic issues, plus he’s total establishment and a complete opportunist.

On top of that he’s for open borders and for destroying French sovereignty.

I would have easily preferred LePen.


24 posted on 05/08/2017 9:52:47 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: b4its2late

It’s their country. I hope they enjoy themselves while they’re on their knees with the blade at their throat. I also know at the very moment the blade goes across their necks they’ll blame Christians and ask the jihadis “what did we do to deserve this?”.

Of course the jihadis will answer, “because you’re alive and it’s what we do”.


25 posted on 05/08/2017 9:57:50 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: Robert DeLong
At the time of Arab Spring, Libya was already well on its way to actually being a modern Arab country--even building desalinization plants to turn parts of the Libyan desert into arable farmland. A stable Libya could actually be very attractive to Arab immigrants--especially since it's only circa a one day trip by modern ship to southern Europe, which could make the Libyan coastline very attractive for commerce.
26 posted on 05/08/2017 10:03:00 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: b4its2late

Ha! Military alliance! That’s rich. They didn’t allow us to use their airspace during at least one of the Gulf Wars while at the same time threatening to dig up the bodies of our buried vets. Anybody remember Freedom Fries?!

She lost and the French will have to deal with the consequences.

And I wouldn’t be to sure that nationalism and self-governance have “peaked.”


27 posted on 05/08/2017 10:06:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: RayChuang88

It’s interesting that Quaddafi could be brought down by a thick-ankled hag and her corrupt pal, Sid Blumenthal.

Life is strange...


28 posted on 05/08/2017 10:07:35 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: b4its2late
I'm not entirely sure as to which "conservatives" the author is addressing. The signal difference between the candidates was not accusations of racism, it was simply that Le Pen perceives invasive Islam as an existential threat and her opponent does not. Whether one or the other has said disagreeable things about football players isn't even a significant distraction.

We'll see. The EU has ordered its constituent countries to lift any internal border restrictions within the Schengen area with France being the exception as France is currently under a state of emergency. What happens with that will determine what the new government's take on immigration policy really is. We can hope for the best but it isn't the way to bet.

29 posted on 05/08/2017 10:11:02 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MUDDOG

The winner has led in polls and by the same difference since the primary.


30 posted on 05/08/2017 10:15:50 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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Unfortunately, American conservatives are very naive. They think any politician labeled "far right" by the liberal news media simply must be the second coming of Barry Goldwater.

The American Right has always been very, very different from the Right elsewhere (especially in non-English speaking countries). The terms "left" and "right" started in France, and their original meaning was not Bernie Sanders and Ronald Reagan.

31 posted on 05/08/2017 10:22:39 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: b4its2late

The writer of the piece has a concern with NATO and alliance that raises a red flag with me. Too many conservatives seem more concerned with America serving allies and alliances than the other way around. Alliance should be temporary and discarded the minute conditions change where the alliance no longer serves American well-being.


32 posted on 05/08/2017 10:26:17 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: b4its2late

WHY all this concern with Le Pen? It has to do with Islam and the EU.

If we got rid of all our muzzies we would not be concerned about France.

BTW, will we vet every traveler coming from France?


33 posted on 05/08/2017 10:27:28 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: b4its2late

In 2014, the Front National won 24% in a country-wide election.

In 2017, they won 34%, and increase of 10%.

Looks like two more cycles and they’ll take the whole thing.


34 posted on 05/08/2017 10:49:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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To: b4its2late

“macaroni and merkel” sounds as exciting as an undressed ham on rye.

Since this ol’ BOY macron likes older women, ol’ Merkel better keep her distance.

What kind of statement will this ol’ BOY make when his beloved ‘cuntrymen/jihadis’ kill more French citizens?


35 posted on 05/08/2017 12:17:59 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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The French just flushed themselves down the toilet, but “Don't worry, be Happy”!?

The rainbow in these clouds is this isn't us. That's about it. Macron is not going to buck his masters, like Soros and the EU.

36 posted on 05/08/2017 1:29:14 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: RayChuang88

Yeah & conquering Europe & the United States is also very attractive to the Muslims. So I sincerely think you are experiencing extremely wishful thinking. Here’s hoping you are right, though I have real doubts.


37 posted on 05/08/2017 2:52:58 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Uncle Miltie

However the leftists went from Hollande’s 52% in 2012 to Macron’s 66% in 2017. Not a good trend line.


38 posted on 05/08/2017 3:13:15 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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The biggest threat facing civilization is the spread of islam, period, end of story.

A candidates’ stance on stopping this plague is the ONLY thing that matters.


39 posted on 05/09/2017 6:43:04 AM PDT by Maverick68
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