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Why conservatives shouldn’t mourn Le Pen’s loss
Red Alert Politics ^ | May 8, 2017 | By Robert Petrosyan

Posted on 05/08/2017 9:02:52 AM PDT by b4its2late

By now, everyone has had a full day to view and process the results of the 2017 French presidential elections. In an election that upended the power of the top two political parties in France, which are Les Republicains and the Parti Socialiste, independent candidate Emmanuel Macron defeated Marine Le Pen of the Front National with 66 percent of the vote compared to Le Pen’s 34 percent.

This victory by Macron, a pro-EU candidate who identifies as a centrist, upends a global trend of populism that began with Brexit and peaked at the election of President Donald Trump in the U.S. Many on the right in the United States, especially the millennial right, are against the European Union, and have shown a lot of dissatisfaction in her failure to win the recent election. However, now that the elections are over, it is time to ask ourselves whether Le Pen would have been an effective leader, and whether we should even want her as our talisman in Europe.

Much can be said about the racially marred history of Marine Le Pen’s Front National, which was originally started by her father Jean-Marie Le Pen, someone who has even recently downplayed the Holocaust and criticized the French national soccer team for having too many black players. Marine Le Pen, his daughter, has sought to clean the reputation of the FN, even going as far as to expel her father, and refocused the party on economic issues and populism as opposed to racially charged rhetoric.

While this makeover has brought improved support for the party, and even made the FN the most popular party among French millennials, there is still much that falls short. Mainly, in a country where it is common to create new parties to represent the same part of the spectrum, it is problematic that the FN has not done the same, especially given the clear reasons to rebrand.

Even without taking into account her own controversial statements, Le Pen has many other problems that should alarm American conservatives. Mainly, most of her political positions are rather far left, such as her position on trade, taxes, and entitlements in France. While her immigration position may be an extreme but arguably necessary counterweight to the notoriously lax immigration policies of Europe, her failure to address the burgeoning welfare state in France will only attract more economic migrants, whether or not they arrive legally or illegally.

Another highly problematic policy point of Marine Le Pen is her plan to withdraw France from NATO. As both a nuclear state, as well as America’s oldest ally, France leaving this military alliance would be a major blow to US military and geopolitical interests. Many supporters of Le Pen in the US also use the mantra America First, so it truly makes no sense to prioritize the interests of French nationalism over the wellbeing of America.

For those who claim that French conservatism does not need to follow the American model, and that France’s sole problem is to curtail immigration and leave the EU, it is important to note that most of the people in France viewed this election mainly as an economic one, given France’s lagging economy. For that reason, among others, Marine Le Pen focused her campaign on economic issues. Also, had Le Pen won, she would have had a tough time enacting most of her proposals, given her lack of support in the legislature (only two MPs). And considering how party leaders left and right united around Macron in a bid to stop Marine Le Pen from gaining support, it is unlikely those same leaders would have been willing to work with her if she was elected President of France.

Based off both the her lack of consensus support as well as the general lack of conservative policies in her platform, I am confident in saying Marine Le Pen would not have become someone worthy of support from the conservative movement.

This is not to say that Emmanuel Macron is a good candidate, as he has major problems of his own. Though his economic policies are good, and an improvement over the socialist policies of the historically unpopular President Francois Hollande, Macron favors further European integration, greater immigration rates, and most problematically, a seeming sense of acceptance of terrorism on French soil.

Given the state of affairs in France the last three years, it is integral that President-elect Macron address the threat of terrorism in the country, specifically, home-grown terrorism, as all but one of the Paris attackers of 2015 were born either in France or Belgium. Neither Macron nor Le Pen seemed to adequately address the issue of home-grown terrorism, and the success and failure of Macron’s presidency will likely be defined not on his economic or social achievements, but whether he can keep the country safe.

While Marine Le Pen may have a few good points, we should not mourn her loss as if we lost a great global standard-bearer for our cause, given her baggage and other shortcomings. We can do better.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; france; lepen; macron
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1 posted on 05/08/2017 9:02:52 AM PDT by b4its2late
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To: b4its2late

Don’t cry for me Argentina.


2 posted on 05/08/2017 9:04:34 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: b4its2late

France needs a president that will put the French first. If its a woman named Le Pen, so be it. It probably isn’t a guy named Macron. But we’ll all see soon enough.

She made a good point, when she said France will be ruled by a woman after this election; either her, Le Pen, or by Angela Merkle. It looks like the French chose Merkle and more massacres.


3 posted on 05/08/2017 9:08:46 AM PDT by marron
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To: b4its2late

Yes there is nothing to fret about because the muslims who will very shortly all of France will give be happy and after all it is more important to the French and the F%^king idiot who wrote this that France die as a good progressive country than Heaven forbid! live on as an evil conservative county.

But don’t look for us to go over there to save you again France - those days are over.


4 posted on 05/08/2017 9:09:09 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: MUDDOG

LOL


5 posted on 05/08/2017 9:10:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: marron

Correct. The fact that Obummer supported Macron makes me more than suspect, but we’ll see. If you ask me, he’ll be like Obummer. Say one thing to get elected, do another once there.


6 posted on 05/08/2017 9:11:47 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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I do think, though, that Emmanuel Macron realizes the major split between the people of Paris and the rest of France and needs to find common ground with all French citizens. In short, a large number of Muslim refugees now in France may be leaving within the next few years.
7 posted on 05/08/2017 9:13:15 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: marron
It looks like the French chose Merkle and more massacres.

It's June 22, 1940 all over again. Probably to Islam instead of Deutchland.

8 posted on 05/08/2017 9:13:48 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: b4its2late

France needs a “Donald J. Trump”!!! Socialist, Le Pen & Obamabot,”Mama & Pajama Boy” Macron don’t; come close to cutting the mustard that France so badly requires!!! The newly elected Macron will fail the French people within less then a year!!! Having Obama in your corner is the kiss of political death!!!


9 posted on 05/08/2017 9:14:45 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: b4its2late

Yep. She’s a nazi because the left says so.

The same degenerate, intellectually inbred, thumb-sucking sacks of complete idiocy that keep telling us that commiescumism is the bestest! thing! eveh! decide who’s a nazi and who’s not.

And the sniveling, mewling, feckless filth of the “conservative” side suck it down and swallow it like good little b**ch punks because they just can’t stand the idea of the crybully left calling them bad names.

The herd needs culling.


10 posted on 05/08/2017 9:16:42 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: b4its2late
The writer's mistake, is in apparently thinking that Conservatism has the same policy agendas in every nation. That is a form of oxymoron.

Conservatism is not a universal policy agenda. It is about preserving heritage. And heritages certainly differ.

The most important defense of any national heritage is the retention of the sovereign independence to chart your own course.

No! I would not want to see the social politics of France imported into America. But France needs to chart her own destiny--not surrender a heritage that has evolved since the days of Charlemagne, to a bunch of internationalist bureaucrats. The French election was a sad demonstration of how far the French have bought into the fantasy that "diversity" and dependence on foreign bureaucrats is an acceptable formula for the future.

11 posted on 05/08/2017 9:21:00 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: b4its2late

Under 10% in Paris, doesn’t seem likely. They also have a ballot option of neither. Neither got over 33%. So, the cougar’s victim got less than 50% (around 37%). Don’t see that in the news, it should be part of any factual story.


12 posted on 05/08/2017 9:21:15 AM PDT by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg")
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“Macron, a pro-EU candidate who identifies as a centrist,”

He is a socialist. In France, a ‘centrist’ is one that does not want to change their socialist and immigration policies.


13 posted on 05/08/2017 9:21:26 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: b4its2late

The only good thing about Le Pen is that she would have closed the borders to muzzies and kept them from destroying the country, but she would have gone too far in isolating France from the rest of the world.
Macron is slightly better than Hollande, but he will keep the muzzies coming in, and do nothing to stop them from taking over.


14 posted on 05/08/2017 9:22:22 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature.)
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To: b4its2late

I googled Images of Macron. What popped up were photos of Obama.


15 posted on 05/08/2017 9:23:12 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


16 posted on 05/08/2017 9:23:17 AM PDT by nutmeg (CNN has *always* been FAKE NEWS)
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Macron is Merkels C$ck holster


17 posted on 05/08/2017 9:27:31 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: TexasGator

He “Identifies” as a centrist, the same way Bruce Jenner “identifies” as a woman.


18 posted on 05/08/2017 9:31:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: b4its2late

upends a global trend of populism that began with Brexit ..

Oh yeah. We’ll see. It looks like 2/3s of the voters are blind to the threats and dead at the hands of Muslim ‘immigrants’.. or do they really believe a Vichy government can protect them as well as WW2’s Vichy clan did.

or maybe they dont teach the history of France in schools anymore.


19 posted on 05/08/2017 9:37:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: madprof98

Maybe you were on Google.com.mx and accidentally typed in “maricon”?


20 posted on 05/08/2017 9:39:50 AM PDT by GOPmember
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