Posted on 04/17/2017 5:39:24 PM PDT by ifinnegan
D1, ifinnegan
OK I saw ifinnegan’s take on it and am in agreement- the Chinese govt and the Chinese people are two entirely different groups...
I don’t either. The problem is, it’s either taking a chance like that or facing our own problems here some day.
I have two friends who were Frozen Chosen.
One is a Marine, and the other was a Navy Corpman with the Marines.
“..Chinese Volunteer Army once fought in the early 1950s. It is a land covered with the blood of Chinese soldiers who bravely fought in the early 1950s...”
“volunteer??” - these weren’t volunteers in Korea. Maybe the American’s with the thousands of draftees could be considered “volunteers.”
They would probe along the line and where they found a soft spot would pour through with everything they had and spread out behind our and the ROK troops. Their strength was in numbers - massive numbers. I was there.
I agree. Kim doesn’t seem to get it. Nobody is challenging him. He’s the one challenging everyone else.
If he’d focus on improving his nation, he’s be able to live out a great life as the leader there.
I made my comment about tanks, because it seemed to me the Chinese government was trying to act as though it had to follow what the Chinese citizens dictated to it.
We all know just how accurate that is. It isn’t.
Trump would doubtless try to contain that front while decapitating Kim.
I think he’s smart enough, however, not to try to turn NK into a full bloom democracy. The replacement for Dear Leader will need to be a kinder Dear Leader. Until they have time to shake off the miasma.
Oh yeah?
Thats funny because if we strike now there aint nothing China or NK can do about it...
10 more years and NK will have played everyone have a nuke, then the world is screwed...
This is an issue about the possibility of expensive refugees streaming across the border from DPRK into China if the DPRK was attacked. China knows this and it is my guess that that is more than likely one of the main leverage points used by Trump to get China to pull in the reins on the DPRK.
“Sounds like they would allow a “light blow” but they are warning NK may retaliate. I think we still need more Chicom cooperation.”
Yes. An earlier editorial said they’d use a dirty bomb on S Korea in retaliation.
I do believe The communists are trying to sway S Korea to their side in these messages as well.
No, it’s a sham, as all “people’s communistic state” arrangements are. It’s about elites who purportedly know what’s best for the people. None of the discord of being democratic or even a democratic republic.
“...it seemed to me the Chinese government was trying to act as though it had to follow what the Chinese citizens dictated to it.”
Exactly. They are a Communist one party regime. But they always pretend to have the people’s support and be servants of the people.
I always ask, if the Chinese communist Party is do popular and beloved, why don’t they allow elections and show it?
I would tell them, “Look, we have no desire to be your enemies. If you want a Communist government, I don’t care. We’re not trying to convert North Korea to anything it doesn’t want to be. We simply cannot let it put a nuclear weapon to our head. If North Korea wants to work with us as China does, we have no problem with that. We can be partners, help North Korea improve the nation. We’re all for that. We have no designs on North Korea at all, other than our own safety. It’s up to North Korea if it is our friend or not.”
Isn’t Angbang really owned by the Chinese Govt in the majority position.
Granted, 400 million to Kushner is a drop in the bucket for Angbang.
“It pretty much sounds like a green light for targeted strikes on their nuclear/ballistic missile facilities (with a warning to consider the retaliation against ROK), while drawing a “red line” at invading and toppling the regime.”
Interesting take.
Earlier this same paper said the retaliation on the South would be a dirty bomb or other radiological dispersion weapon.
So, if your take is right, it seems that is the trade off the ChiComs are proposing.
And that is of course not a trade off we would ever accept.
I think that a lot of this is to get the South to ask us to back down and let N Korea be.
One can read that between the lines in this sentence: “One can only hope that Washington reaches out to Seoul for a second opinion.”
As Trump told China, you fix it or we will.
My dad served in a U.S. Army tank unit over there.
I’m not too familiar with AngBang, but what you say sounds right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anbang_Insurance_Group
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