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California Woman Who Tried to Sell a Moon Rock Wins Round Against NASA
San Jose Mercury News ^ | April 14, 2017 | Liam Truchard

Posted on 04/14/2017 9:25:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Joann Davis had a moon rock. Yes, it was real. A gift, she said, from Neil Armstrong to her late husband.

She also had an ill son and the Lake Elsinore resident wanted to help with his medical care. So she contacted NASA about her intention to sell it.

That led to a nightmare situation on May 19, 2011, when Davis stood in the parking lot of a Denny’s restaurant in pants soaked in urine, answering questions from a federal agent about a rice-sized piece of moon.

“He kept saying, ‘You will be going to federal court, you will be going to federal jail,’ ” Davis said Friday.

An indignant federal appeals court on Thursday criticized Davis’ detention by NASA agent Norman Conley in the Denny’s parking lot, calling it “unreasonably prolonged and unnecessarily degrading.”

Conley detained Davis even though he knew she was nearly 75 years old, had urinated in her pants during the sting, had reached out to NASA herself and was having financial problems, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said.

The court was “determining whether a federal agent could be sued for wrongful detention under these circumstances,” said Davis’ Redlands-based lawyer, Peter Schlueter. And their decision was “absolutely, yes.”

Lunar material gathered on the Apollo missions is considered government property, and her email prompted an investigation that brought six armed officers to the Denny’s that day in a sting operation to seize the rock.

Instead of asking Davis to surrender the rock to NASA, Conley “organized a sting operation involving six armed officers to forcibly seize a lucite paperweight containing a moon rock the size of a rice grain from an elderly grandmother,” 9th Circuit Chief Judge Sidney Thomas wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: armstrong; astronaut; biggovernment; goon; goonrock; humiliation; moon; moonlanding; moonrock; nasa; neilarmstrong; normanconley; obamasfault; oonrock; paperweight; poonrock; rock; salloonrock; sting; zealot
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Yeah, I’ll give you that one. I’m not perfect.


81 posted on 04/15/2017 10:20:43 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx
Consider the obvious fakery in which NASA was willing to engage in the following example. It's the same, apparently human-crafted prop moon "rock," labeled "C". Once the anomaly was caught and "repaired," the other time not:

What makes you think the "C" is on the rock rather than the photo, on which it is so nicely centered horizontally?

82 posted on 04/15/2017 10:20:48 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Actually, in that composite image, the size of the circular projection of the sphere is almost the same for each sub-image. So it's not really from a greater distance each time, or the "circle" would be smaller in each picture.

What you'll notice after some observation is that the ANGLE is different in each sub-image.

So effectively the image of North America is progressively smaller because of being taken at a different angle each time, further away from North America (but NOT significantly further away from the globe itself).

83 posted on 04/15/2017 10:21:33 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Interesting Times

Never mind - just saw that the image is an extract from a larger photo.


84 posted on 04/15/2017 10:24:19 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times
The preponderance of many pieces of faked evidence would make me think that. I've listed several. For many, no one has provided an alternative, plausible explanation.

I was open to NASA's explanation on the 'C', but your suggestion was not their answer. (By the way, only the cropping might make it appear centered.) I found the claim of it being a coil of hair when it could not have been wanting and convenient, inasmuch as it implicitly kept any original evidence from being scrutinized.

85 posted on 04/15/2017 10:46:24 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: Fightin Whitey

He also believes the Earth is flat (I thought he was joking) and that, of course, 9/11 was a gov’t conspiracy for the NWO.

Now, I DO believe there are Globalists who would like some sort of NWO (some hide in plain sight like GHWB) BUT I think certain folks took advantage of 9/11. They didn’t fly robotic airplanes full of passengers into the WTC, the Pentagon, etc.


86 posted on 04/15/2017 11:48:41 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: Chode

The Russians said what, that they, too, received a piece of petrified tree instead of moon rock?


87 posted on 04/15/2017 1:26:56 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

88 posted on 04/15/2017 1:50:28 PM PDT by AAABEST (Got Traditional Catholicism? - Angelqueen.org)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Curiously, on the image where the "coiled hair" has been removed (right), the front-left lateral portion of the image has also been altered (The shadow there has become rectangular and certain other things have been smoothed or blended to be less prominent. An area near to the right of the C has also lost its shadow and apparently been smoothed partly away) If it had truly been merely a hair atop the print in post-processing, it does not follow that the image would undergo other transformations.


89 posted on 04/15/2017 1:54:09 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

I’m trying, but I’m not seeing the other alterations that you speak of.


90 posted on 04/15/2017 2:48:05 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: AAABEST
Got bupkis but ridicule for your fellow, long-time Freeper, eh? That's a big part of what's wrong with our country and it explains how government is so easily able to manipulate the citizenry.

“Finding the occasional straw of truth awash in a great ocean of confusion and bamboozle requires intelligence, vigilance, dedication and courage. But if we don't practice these tough habits of thought, we cannot hope to solve the truly serious problems that face us - and we risk becoming a nation of suckers, up for grabs by the next charlatan who comes along.” -- Carl Sagan

91 posted on 04/15/2017 4:00:52 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

Given that Sagan was an atheist in all but name, I find that quote of his rather amusing.


92 posted on 04/15/2017 4:15:41 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: rx
Got bupkis but ridicule for your fellow, long-time Freeper, eh?

Yes sir, because what you're posting is quite ridiculous.

I'm actually doing you a favor.

93 posted on 04/15/2017 4:37:47 PM PDT by AAABEST (Got Traditional Catholicism? - Angelqueen.org)
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To: StolarStorm

I would probably understand such a person to have a kind of color-blindness and not worry much about it at all.


94 posted on 04/15/2017 4:46:11 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx
that the landing were fake... not
95 posted on 04/15/2017 5:24:13 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: nickcarraway

I collect meteorites and have a lunar meteorite, had two but sold one. I also have 8 pieces of Mars rock. They are small and not much to look at compared to some larger iron meteorites with good flight flow marks but there are only a handfull of people who own them (lunar and Mars rock) outside of govt and the scientific community.


96 posted on 04/15/2017 8:24:31 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

How did you get one?


97 posted on 04/16/2017 12:13:38 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

From a well known collector who was selling some small ones, I got 2 lunar. Same with the Mars meteorites, another collector.

The lunar meteorite mentioned in the article which is usually referred to as a moon rock was collected on the moon during an Apollo moon mission. They are much more valuable usually but not always than the lunar meteorites I bought, which were ejected from moon surface by a meteor strike, then captured by earth’s gravity and some of it usually just small pieces make it through earth’s gravity and land on surface. Same for the registered Mars meteorites.

The ones I bought are small pieces that fell off when they were being cut. But they still have value, sometimes they are very valuable.

The lunar and Mars pieces I have are all under 1 gram.


98 posted on 04/16/2017 2:11:42 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: nickcarraway

The moon rocks or pieces from or dust from are generally more valuable because they came back from a Apollo mission, they are not rarer geologically. Like a rare baseball card, few have them and collectors want them. I seem to remember Bill Clinton stole a moon rock from White House claims it was an oversight, figures huh?


99 posted on 04/16/2017 2:18:17 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: rx

Fascinating. I wonder what else you believe. Do you believe the Earth is flat? Do you believe in the existence of germs?


100 posted on 04/16/2017 5:35:43 PM PDT by dinodino
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