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This new solar-powered device can pull water straight from the desert air [ Can MOFs pull in Co2? ]
sciencemag.org ^ | April 13,2017 | Robert Service

Posted on 04/13/2017 1:42:49 PM PDT by NoLibZone

You can’t squeeze blood from a stone, but wringing water from the desert sky is now possible, thanks to a new spongelike device that uses sunlight to suck water vapor from air, even in low humidity. The device can produce nearly 3 liters of water per day, and researchers say future versions will be even better. That means homes in the driest parts of the world could soon have a solar-powered appliance capable of delivering all the water they need, offering relief to billions of people.

To find an all-purpose solution, researchers led by Omar Yaghi, a chemist at the University of California, Berkeley, turned to a family of crystalline powders called metal organic frameworks, or MOFs. Yaghi developed the first MOFs—porous crystals that form continuous 3D networks—more than 20 years ago. The networks assemble in a Tinkertoy-like fashion from metal atoms that act as the hubs and sticklike organic compounds that link the hubs together. By choosing different metals and organics, chemists can dial in the properties of each MOF, controlling what gases bind to them, and how strongly they hold on.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drought; mof; technology; water; watergen; watergeneration; watertechnology
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Whay not use this to gather Co2?

"By choosing different metals and organics, chemists can dial in the properties of each MOF, controlling what gases bind to them, and how strongly they hold on."

1 posted on 04/13/2017 1:42:49 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

When we camped we always used a black tarp...when plastics became available we used that. Condensation is a wonderful thing

3L of water ain’t much by the way. Scaling will be the big issue.....true for all engineering projects


2 posted on 04/13/2017 1:46:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: NoLibZone

They don’t mention the size of the device, nor its cost, per liter produced.
I’m quite interested.


3 posted on 04/13/2017 1:47:25 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: NoLibZone

If you suck the CO2 from the air, all of life will cease to exist!!


4 posted on 04/13/2017 1:48:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: NoLibZone

I’d gather CO2 by growing plants.


5 posted on 04/13/2017 1:50:03 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: ctdonath2

There’s a picture at the link. The device (presumably the one that can produce 3L of water) looks to be about the size of a 1-quart milk container.


6 posted on 04/13/2017 1:51:16 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: ctdonath2

Apparently modern science now considers desert air to be too humid.


7 posted on 04/13/2017 1:52:11 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Nifster

It isn’t much, but if you have a few units, it could begin to pile up some decent amounts.

Didn’t look, but I wonder how big it is. A yard full of collectors for three gallons a day wouldn’t exactly make my day.


8 posted on 04/13/2017 1:53:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: NoLibZone

>>can produce nearly 3 liters of water per day..

>>..soon...

>>..capable of delivering all the water they need

Soon is a long way off in these stories.


9 posted on 04/13/2017 1:54:07 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: NoLibZone

The condensate from a standard home heat pump can run several gallons per day in a humid climate, and that’s not even designed to be efficient in producing it, the condensate is treated as a nuisance byproduct.


10 posted on 04/13/2017 1:54:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: NoLibZone

Al Gore said this will result in uncontrollable global warming.


11 posted on 04/13/2017 1:57:03 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Mr. Lucky

Put in a million of them, suck all the moisture out of the air and kill everything that was already there depending on that moisture. Sounds like a great idea. You only think there is nothing living in the desert, they are tremendously diverse beautiful places full of life. And they need that water too.


12 posted on 04/13/2017 1:57:08 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: NoLibZone

All of these “Blood from a turnip” ideas are limited by one, single factor - HUMIDITY. If the humidity is zero, you’ll get NO water. The average humidity in the Saharian desert is 25%. The energy required to condense that moisture is cost prohibitive.


13 posted on 04/13/2017 1:58:19 PM PDT by markearl
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To: NoLibZone

Step 2: After people are sick from mineral deficiency by drinking distilled water for a few years we will then have to ...... Oh never mind.


14 posted on 04/13/2017 1:58:20 PM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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Distilled water is actually healthy. Rainwater is distilled; and the water you’d get out of this machine is also “distilled”.


15 posted on 04/13/2017 2:03:23 PM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus: please expose, unveil and then frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised...)
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To: super7man

I drank nothing but distilled water for a year or so. Never got sick, because I got my minerals from my FOOD, amazing huh.


16 posted on 04/13/2017 2:05:35 PM PDT by Paradox ("Donald Trump", the biggest Strawman ever created.)
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Whay not use this to gather Co2?

Because we already have enough CO2. It's a byproduct of combustion. If we needed some more there's plenty to be had from natural gas, oil and coal fired power plants.

If this really works and is economically feasible we will be able to green the deserts and greatly expand the area of human habitability. Might even make some of the hell holes in the middle east livable. Once we get rid of mohammedanism.
17 posted on 04/13/2017 2:08:21 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Nifster
Some places claim the average use of water per day is 80-100 gallons per person. LINK

One of my hobbies of late is to see how little water I can use per day.

If you couple that sort of an effort with recycling your water, you can make startling reductions in how little water you need to get by.

Right now I get by on about 1.5 gallons per day. That includes hygiene and hydration. It does not involve recycling.

I have studied the issues involved with using less that that. If I had to, I might be able to get by with as little as 1/10th of a gallon per day, with good hygiene and hydration. That's 36 gallons per year.

My plants would not be happy campers.

18 posted on 04/13/2017 2:08:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: NoLibZone

Right now Phoenix is 88 degrees and 12% humidity. If I read the chart right that’s about 6 milliliters of water per cubic meter of air. Just watch as everyone downwind complains that you are stealing their moisture.


19 posted on 04/13/2017 2:09:09 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: NoLibZone

I did some research on this product a while back. The sizzle doesn’t match the steak. If you are planning to trek out into the wilderness in hot arid regions of the world thinking this will provide your hydration needs. Please leave a note as to where we can locate your dead desiccated body for recovery.


20 posted on 04/13/2017 2:09:24 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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