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New Yorkers shocked to find that people are fleeing their city in droves
Hotair ^ | 04/03/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 04/03/2017 7:36:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind


New York, New York. So nice they say it twice. But it’s apparently not nice enough anymore for people to want to stick around. The NY Post highlights some recent population figures which indicate that a growing number of Gotham residents (that would be rapidly growing) either don’t want to live there anymore or simply can’t afford to. In either case, there’s a bit of an exodus going on and the Big Apple is losing residents faster than any other major metropolitan area in the country.

More people are leaving the New York region than any other major metropolitan area in the country.

More than 1 million people moved out of the New York area to other parts of the country since 2010, a rate of 4.4 percent — the highest negative net migration rate among the nation’s large population centers, US Census records show.

The number of people leaving the region — which includes parts of New Jersey, Connecticut, the lower Hudson Valley and Long Island — in one year swelled from 187,034 in 2015 to 223,423 in 2016, while the number of international immigrants settling in the tristate area dwindled from 181,551 to 160,324 over the same period, records show.

More than a million people in six years is not normal ebb and flow. To be fair, we should emphasize the fact that this isn’t just New York City… it includes the outlying areas of New Jersey and the inner reach of Long Island. It also doesn’t include the rest of New York State. (You know… the unfashionable, more rural upstate region where I live.)

Part of it is certainly the cost of living and that’s what the Post article focuses on primarily. When the economy improves, rent and mortgage costs skyrocket faster in that town than almost anywhere else and it’s already one of the most expensive places in the country to live. According to Fortune Magazine last December, the average price of an apartment in the Big Apple is now over two million dollars. Yes, you read that correctly… that’s for an apartment. By contrast, a bit more than five hours away to the northwest, a three bedroom colonial with a fenced in yard a couple of blocks down the hill from me sold for $85K this winter. If you could plunk that property down in the middle of Manhattan it would probably cost at least $25M.

But that’s not the only factor. Another cost of continuing to elect Democrats for generations is that New York State is one of the most heavily taxed states in the nation and the city is even worse. Progressive policies have led to some of the most invasive regulations and childish rules imaginable. (Though that’s something the true, diehard liberal progressives shouldn’t be complaining about.) All in all, if you want to live in New York City you’d better like a lot of government in your life and be prepared to fund it out of your paycheck every week at a steep clip.

In any event, you can add all of those factors up and it’s no wonder that people are fleeing. At this point we can only hope that the trend continues until the upstate population outnumbers them and we can get the state government back under control. Well… we can dream, anyway.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blog; bloggers; exodus; newyork; nyc
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To: DeWalt
They could move to Chicago and hear gunshots night and day ...
61 posted on 04/04/2017 2:52:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PGR88

My part of NJ is included in this (about a dozen miles west of lower Manhattan); people are wising up to the fact that rather than buying homes here, we were just renting them from the teachers’ unions - and when you own them outright, you’ll still pay nearly one thousand a month in union dues (property taxes).

In areas that aren’t very nice anymore...


62 posted on 04/04/2017 3:39:03 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: MinuteGal

All that you say has been my fear for years! I don’t mind these folks moving in, but leave NY & NJ politics behind! It’s (perhaps) the reason they left, anyway.


63 posted on 04/04/2017 3:39:48 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SeekAndFind
More people are leaving the New York region than any other major metropolitan area in the country.

Rivaling Chicago, in particular, and Kalifornia, in general.

64 posted on 04/04/2017 3:42:17 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SamAdams76

It describes how the Americans fleeing are being replaced by immigrants; the population isn’t dropping, but very much changing.

That is the purpose of “sanctuary cities” - to prevent the high-cost liberal bastions from becoming ghost towns.


65 posted on 04/04/2017 3:42:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Like NJ, NY has tremendous potential; it also is horribly anti-business, and workers are soon disgusted providing EVERYTHING for a growing population that refuses to work.


66 posted on 04/04/2017 3:45:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Again, I don’t see it. Skyscrapers going up all around me and tall ones too. On 57th St alone there are several 1,000+ foot towers either just built or under construction. My Metro North train is increasingly crowded with working people in business suits. So all those on this thread pumping their fists in delight that NYC is crumbling are falling for fake news.

I detest DeBlasio and his policies like everyone else here and believe that any mayor making his town a sanctuary city for illegal immigration belongs in jail. Maybe NYC gets a bette mayor this year. But I’m not seeing “white flight” from NYC. My company is opening up a third NYC office in the Industry City area of Brooklyn and the growth and gentrification of that area over the past few years has been astonishing.


67 posted on 04/04/2017 4:06:47 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: inchworm

We’re NYSers. We’re not libs. Not on the dole. And we will be bugging out as soon as we retire. To a right to work state with the highest percentage of makers to takers.


68 posted on 04/04/2017 4:10:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: SamAdams76

15 years ago countless lives were saved by the high vacancy rate in the World Trade Center; the replacement has less space because the demand was already falling.

My area to the west isn’t losing population; it is losing AMERICAN population. The county north of me recently added a third language to government business (ballots and such): Korean. As for NYC, I’ve always thought it was filled with foreigners (not a criticism, just a fact); a friend that works there described how he could tell they were filming a movie there: Too many whites (the extras) milling about.


69 posted on 04/04/2017 4:10:43 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SamAdams76

Well, Upstate looks like a ghost town.


70 posted on 04/04/2017 4:11:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: SamAdams76

The most blatant admission of what was happening in the NYC area came out a couple of years ago when the project for a third tunnel under the Hudson River was scrapped (due to lack of demand); the supporters, primarily interested in decades of workfare jobs associated with the project, pointed out that people might need it for not work, but to SEE A BROADWAY SHOW.


71 posted on 04/04/2017 4:12:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Yea, because lord knows the world runs on baseball.


72 posted on 04/04/2017 4:15:12 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Try is the first step to failure." Homer Simpson.)
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To: kearnyirish2

I would disagree that there is lack of demand for additional Hudson tunnels. Spend rush hour at Penn Station or the Port Authority bus terminal and you’ll see what I mean. The real issue is that NJ and NY can’t get their act together but I believe Trump’s infrastructure plan will get that much needed project moving forward. The existing rail tunnels are aging and could fail soon, which would be a nightmare for NJ commuters.

I have it pretty good commuting from Connecticut. Metro North is well run and Grand Central Terminal is a model of efficiency compared to Penn.


73 posted on 04/04/2017 4:31:56 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Let the US taxpayer bailout NYC? No way!


74 posted on 04/04/2017 4:39:29 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood

Good or bad, Trump campaigned on improving infrastructure.


75 posted on 04/04/2017 4:40:44 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Yeah...In red States.


76 posted on 04/04/2017 4:47:45 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood

We shall see.


77 posted on 04/04/2017 4:49:31 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

You elected deblasio, you deal with him.


78 posted on 04/04/2017 4:52:39 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: doorgunner69
They infested that state in the 70's. That is what ruined the state and turned it into the liberal hellhole it is today.

Correct, watched it with my own eyes. It used to be a terrific place. Now Marin County (home to me) is becoming exactly the sort of bourgeoisie vs. downtrodden schism that Commie literature is full of and to hear them tell it, it's somehow the fault of Republicans.

79 posted on 04/04/2017 5:38:41 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: PGR88

“...turned upstate into a kind if Appalachia...”

So true and sad. So very many of these once beautiful and thriving upstate downtowns are ghost towns now with an occasional tatoo parlor mixed in for the Section 8 residents that are left.

NYC and its liberal poison is a drain on the entire state.


80 posted on 04/04/2017 5:40:33 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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