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Bozell: Failure to Repeal Obamacare 'Absolute Suicide for the Republican Party'
CNS News ^ | march 31, 2017 | Susan Jones

Posted on 04/01/2017 6:11:27 AM PDT by KyCats

"It is absolute suicide for the Republican Party to follow the course that they're embarking on right now," L. Brent Bozell III, the chairman of For America, told a conference call.

"All the studies show that premiums are going to go up. The Republican Party will own health care -- Paul Ryan and the Republican leadership in the Senate will own Obamacare, and national health care after this -- if they go down this road.”

Bozell said Republicans “could well lose the House and Senate in 2018” if they don’t rethink what they’re doing. “It will be a rout against Republicans.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 115th; ahca; congress; freedomcaucus; hfc; obamacare; repealandreplace; republicans; ryancare; trump; trump45
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To: Sgt_Schultze

The left is pulling back on its attacks against Ivanka. NBC news just published a major puff piece on her involvement in the White House. Glowingly gushing.

Best proof possible that someone’s a leftist is when the mainstream media starts to write complimentary stories about them. Sure fire way of spotting the enemy.


41 posted on 04/01/2017 7:17:02 AM PDT by KyCats
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To: KyCats

You have recently been a well thought out voice for the people’s liberty.

Okay, Bannon, you can reveal your identity now.


42 posted on 04/01/2017 7:18:02 AM PDT by TheNext (Repeal only Individual Mandate. Let Obamacare compete.)
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To: KyCats

“not flinching”?

He could have taken out someone’s eye.

He should get that checked out.


43 posted on 04/01/2017 7:19:49 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: KyCats

Since the leaders of the HFC have ALREADY spent hours negotiating with President Trump, how is it even possible that the HFC has NOT presented its “initiatives” already?

What IS possible (and highly likely, IMHO) is that the HFC has refused to define those “initiatives” in a single WRITTEN document that the HFC agree to support. Answer me this: If the 30 HFC members cannot agree on ONE bill, how can anyone take them seriously?

Some politicians say that “Indecisiveness is the KEY to flexibility!”

I say that American patriots have had enough of that.


44 posted on 04/01/2017 7:24:31 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: alloysteel

Well said, and I agree.


45 posted on 04/01/2017 7:34:14 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: pfony1

“Answer me this: If the 30 HFC members cannot agree on ONE bill, how can anyone take them seriously?”

Answer me this:
If Trump van Ryan came to your caucus door to pitch a THREE part plan where you take what is essentially poison to your principles, then remain calm during the nebulous phase 2 minor adjustments and then finally donate to the Senate Rs your like your life depends on it - because phase 3’s antidote relies on it.... would you take THEM seriously?


46 posted on 04/01/2017 7:43:17 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: KyCats

7 years of ‘repeal Obamacare’ talk. We gave them a majority in the House. a majority in the Senate and the White House so they could turn that talk to action. They come up with a terrible bill and can’t even get it to a vote. Then they tell us ‘don’t worry, we’ll have another go once Obamacare has exploded and the Dims have to negotiate’. Meanwhile, we’re the ones who continue suffering through ever-increasing premiums.

Enough is enough. This is a problem we elected them to FIX. Not to argue about among themselves - FIX. Not to give up on after just a couple of weeks - FIX. Not to stand aside and watch in comfort while we suffer - FIX.

Either do the job NOW or we’ll find someone else.


47 posted on 04/01/2017 7:43:39 AM PDT by The Numbers (God, Family and Country is Right.)
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To: KyCats

Howie Carr is someone else who knows the score:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2017/03/carr_freedom_caucus_did_the_president_a_yuge_favor?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=socialflow


48 posted on 04/01/2017 7:50:12 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dandiegirl

Not all, but too many.


49 posted on 04/01/2017 7:51:54 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: pfony1

I believe they were very clear on their initiative you just chose not to listen. They were simple. Paul had the bill passed dozens of times vetoed by the one at the ready. It was passed I’ve and I’ve again in a Rebublican house and Senate yet that wasn’t sent to Trumps desk. Option two is ANY legislation passed need to bring down present premiums and deductibles.

This was very clear to those that listened.


50 posted on 04/01/2017 8:08:56 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

Time and time again....damn iPhone


51 posted on 04/01/2017 8:10:01 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: KyCats

Somebody finally said it.


52 posted on 04/01/2017 8:24:53 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: KyCats

Remember dear FRiends, the HFC has a bunch of unrepentant never Trumpers, Cruz bitter losers.


53 posted on 04/01/2017 8:31:22 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: Lumper20

We have no responsibility to insure illegal aliens.


54 posted on 04/01/2017 8:33:53 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: BuddhaBrown

Sorry...

Mo Brooks, a member of the HFC, has written a simple, repeal only bill.

WHY does that bill NOT have 29 co-sponsors from the HFC?

If the HFC would form such a nucleus of support for Mo Brook’s bill, wouldn’t other Republicans join? So WHY is the HFC being so “coy”, instead?

One has to ask if the HFC is capable of getting to “yes”.

Now, here is an answer to your question: Since the RyanCare bill did NOT pass, a NEW bill is required. So why don’t we deal with that fact and:

WRITE and PASS a NEW Bill!

In this situation, I think sanctimonious “virtue-signaling” is a waste of time.

Instead, PASS THE BILL!


55 posted on 04/01/2017 8:38:02 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: KyCats

Two essentials

1. repeal penalty “tax”

2. bar coverage mandates of any kind

There should be no iron rice bowls filled with “gold” extracted by coercive government force, state or federal.

The Mental Health Parity Act needs to be repealed.

I’ve always been an “at-will” employee.

I want equality. The type of coverage insurers offer should be their choice. Whether I buy any such coverage should be my choice.


56 posted on 04/01/2017 8:38:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: vortec94

That’s not true at all

Mark Meadows - Yes
Jim Jordan - Yes
Justin Amash - No
Brian Babin - Yes
Joe Barton - Yes
Andy Biggs - Yes
Rod Blum - Yes
Dave Brat - Yes
Jim Bridenstine - Yes
Mo Brooks - Yes
Ken Buck - Yes
Warren Davidson - Yes
Ron DeSantis - Yes
Scott DesJarlais - Yes
Jeff Duncan - Yes
Trent Franks - Yes
Tom Garrett Jr. - Yes
Louie Gohmert - Yes
Paul Gosar - Yes
Morgan Griffith - Yes
Andy Harris - Yes
Jody Hice - Yes
Mike Johnson - Yes
Raúl Labrador - Yes
Alex Mooney - Yes
Gary Palmer - Yes
Steve Pearce - Yes
Scott Perry - Yes
Bill Posey - Yes
Mark Sanford - No
David Schweikert - Yes
Randy Weber - Yes
Ted Yoho - Yes

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/full-list-where-every-republican-in-congress-stands-on-donald-trump/article/2592510


57 posted on 04/01/2017 8:40:50 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Thanks for posting the list.


58 posted on 04/01/2017 9:01:26 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Jim Noble

“Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.”

Medical “insurance” is not like food stamps.

Most people wouldn’t know the difference if they lost their ~$5,000 deductible “bronze” boondoggles - too expensive to use, never pay anything at all in any particular year for ~98% of bronze plan “covered” persons.

I have carefully crafted a plan that increases freedom, expands coverage to millions more and has a total plan cost to Uncle Sam of about what the PPACA does.

Version 4.6:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~briangriffin/

no employer or individual mandates or fines

Drug coverage and health care service coverage would have separate subsidies.

The federal monthly care subsidy base amount for a US citizen age 23 and over would be:
(age factor*$30) - (’normally attainable annual income estimate’**2/20000*(105-3*age factor))

[At age 64, the maximum subsidy would be $439.20/month and eligibility would end at $24,187/year.]
[At age 40, the maximum subsidy would be $142.80/month and eligibility would end at $16,432/year.]
[At age 26, the maximum subsidy would be $83.25/month and eligibility would end at $13,145/year.]

The federal monthly drug subsidy base amount for a US citizen at least 26 years of age would be:
(age bracket multiplier*$8) - (’normally attainable annual income estimate’**2/20000*(350-10*age bracket multiplier))

[At age 64, the maximum would be $116.76/month and eligibility would end at $21,909.]
[At age 26, the maximum would be $27.82/month and eligibility would end at $14,085.]

Square-law falloff subsidies are used instead of linear falloff subsidies to better serve lower income recipients.

extraordinary mandatory issue open season - every 4 years, exchange only

employer tax credits for optional annual open seasons

no coverage mandates - only federal subsidy reductions based on coverage limits & co-pay/co-insurance/deductibles:

The monthly care subsidy amount of a person shall be:
(monthly care subsidy base amount of a person)*
(the person’s plan care scope factor*the person’s policy financial quality factor)/10000

state PPACA Medicaid expansion contributions 10% -> 28%,
(or block grants, on a 80/20 [and 70/30] federal/state matching basis)
[This helps provide the money to cover millions more individually.]

hospital block grants to help exceptional cases with premium payments

80% maximum federal subsidies, except via hospital block grants

loss ratio tax on non-employer plans

small premium increases possible in case of insurer need

My proposal would have drug coverage other than grandfathered PPACA plans on a coverage provider negotiated or consumer market basis.


59 posted on 04/01/2017 9:02:38 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Mine eyes glaze over (MEGO)

Too much wonk and not enough real lifting of the original objection, which is “government decides”.


60 posted on 04/01/2017 9:19:23 AM PDT by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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