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NOT backing down: Freedom Caucus stands strong amid attacks from the President
Conservative Review ^ | 03/31/2017 | Chris Pandolfo

Posted on 03/31/2017 8:44:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Though the Freedom Caucus is under assault from all sides, some of its members who have spoken to the media or made public statements are standing strong — insisting that they are willing to work with President Trump to keep the GOP’s promise to repeal Obamacare.

The media has used the failure of the American Health Care Act — Republican leadership’s phony repeal bill — as an excuse to attack conservatives in Congress. The Tea Party members of the Freedom Caucus, who opposed the legislation on grounds that it would not improve the American health insurance market, have been labeled “hardliners” who are unwilling to “compromise” or “get things done.”

President Trump has expressed his frustration with the health insurance bill’s failure in a series of tweets, first suggesting that the Freedom Caucus saved Planned Parenthood funding and Obamacare, and later announcing that if conservatives don’t hop aboard the establishment Republican agenda they will be fought in 2018.

“The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!” the president tweeted.

Some members of the House Freedom Caucus are pushing back on President Donald Trump’s threat to “fight” conservatives in the 2018 midterm primary elections.

"It didn't take long for the swamp to drain [Trump]. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment," Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted. 

It didn't take long for the swamp to drain @realDonaldTrump. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment. https://t.co/9bDo8yzH7I

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) March 30, 2017

Freedom Caucus ally Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) also joined in.

.@realDonaldTrump it's a swamp not a hot tub. We both came here to drain it. #SwampCare polls 17%. Sad! https://t.co/4kjygV2tdS

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) March 30, 2017

So did Rep. Labrador:

@realDonaldTrump Freedom Caucus stood with u when others ran. Remember who your real friends are. We're trying to help u succeed. — Raúl R. Labrador (@Raul_Labrador) March 30, 2017

Other Freedom Caucus conservatives are being less confrontational. Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) reiterated his support for “actual repeal” of Obamacare, and said he shared the president’s “frustration” with recalcitrant Republicans in Washington D.C.

I understand the President’s frustration. I share that frustration w/ a swamp refusing to repeal Obamacare. I am on board for actual repeal.

— Louie Gohmert (@replouiegohmert) March 30, 2017

"The Freedom Caucus is trying to change Washington. This bill keeps Washington the same, plain and simple," Rep. Jordan said on Fox News Thursday.

"We appreciate the president; we are trying to help the president. But the fact is, you have to look at the legislation. It doesn't do what we told the voters we were going to do, and the American people understand that. That's why only 17 percent of the population supports this legislation."

“We want to help the president get a bill that rises above 17% in the polling,” Congressman Dave Brat (R-Va.) told Conservative Review. He said the Freedom Caucus is looking for a bill that will lower premiums by repealing the insurance regulations and mandated health benefits that are driving up the cost of health insurance.

Brat also criticized the mainstream media narrative that the Freedom Caucus sunk Obamacare repeal. “The narrative by the elites and the D.C. cronies and the mainstream media is that ‘we can’t get to yes.’”

“On the facts that’s false,” Brat said. “We voted ‘yes’ 50 times for repeal. And the 2015 bill was unanimous, basically, with Republicans in the House and the Senate.”

Rep. Brat argues that the Freedom Caucus has compromised from voting for that 2015 full repeal of Obamacare to nearly supporting the American Health Care Act, “kind of an Obamacare federal structure that maintains the basic architecture of Obamacare.”

This is not what the conservative base in the Republican Party voted for in 2016. Then again, actually it is.

“The idea that we haven’t moved considerably is just laughable,” Brat said. 

Further, “it was clear to Leadership that more moderates were going to vote no if that bill came to the floor than the Freedom Caucus. But that narrative is not as convenient. Once that vote hit 22 ‘Noes’ it was going to go to 60 or 70, is the best estimate.”

Why then are moderates like Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Il.) claiming the Freedom Caucus killed Obamacare repeal? 

“They’re just being politically shrewd,” Brat said. “The mainstream media, of course, goes along with that narrative that it's these conservative guys’ fault. It’s the usual D.C. narrative.”

A narrative that President Trump has bought into. But Freedom Caucus conservatives aren’t the only ones making Brat’s point.

Congressman Tom Emmer (R-Minn.) — who is not a member of the Freedom Caucus — told PJ media that “there were probably ten to fifteen members of the Freedom Caucus that were still a no.” However, Emmer estimated that there were “two-thirds to three-quarters of the Freedom Caucus [who] were yes on this bill.” A “vast majority.”

This media narrative blaming the Freedom Caucus is “intentional,” Emmer said.

It always has been this way. You've got to marginalize the conservatives as much as possible. I think this is done both by liberals on the Left as much as liberals on the Right, Walter. The more you can marginalize this group, the less influence they can have, right?...

Marginalizing conservatives is exactly what the moderate Republicans in the Tuesday Group have decided to do. Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), who was the first member of Congress to endorse President Trump, told reporters today that the Freedom Caucus no longer has a seat at the table for negotiations on legislation.

Rep Chris Collins says Tuesday Group met last night agreed they won't meet or work w Freedom Caucus. "If that call comes in just hang up"

— Daniel Newhauser (@dnewhauser) March 30, 2017

Collins says HFC is trying to blame moderates on health care: "This is the Freedom Caucus looking for a scapegoat" https://t.co/hEkKixuNuO

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) March 30, 2017

These moderate Republicans refused to go along with a full repeal of Obamacare, and now they are pledging to work with liberal Democrats to pass bad bills rather than use the Republican majority to pass conservative legislation.

It’s compromise with Democrats. Screw the conservatives. Pass liberal legislation that will hurt people. And President Trump is fine with all of it.

This is not what the conservative base in the Republican Party voted for in 2016. Then again, actually it is. The Tea Party took this risk when they handed Trump the Republican nomination in 2016. Donald Trump was never a conservative. He was never anti-establishment

Some conservatives knew that when they held their nose to beat Hillary Clinton. 

Well, the Democrats are out of power and conservatives are still losing. So where do we go from here?




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: boohoo; conservativereview; cultists; fakes; freedomcaucus; healthcare; marklevin; nevertrump; obamacare; populists; reeeeeee; ryancarebillpulled; trumpfreedomcaucus; whining; wofc
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cool! Socialism for all and a new democratic majority. FR is weird sometimes.


41 posted on 03/31/2017 9:43:46 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: precisionshootist
What? How is passing a health care bill that does nothing to lower costs going to help anyone? Repeal and repeal only !! We don't need ryancare or any other government replacement. Get the hell out of our business !

Back up in time... Why did not any one of these of this so called caucus run against lying Ryan for speaker and few months ago???????

Please do not pretend they had no clue who lying Ryan is... So they pick the snake to rule over them, pretended they were 'negotiating' in (gag) good faith with the 'snake' that had the power to neuter them.. And now they attempt to pretend they are martyrs? I thought the libs were drama queens, bar none, but, not so, this bunch could not find their way out of a paper bag.

42 posted on 03/31/2017 9:43:50 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: stockpirate

I don’t stand with any of them, because none of them stand for me, or have ever stood for me.

None of these jackasses have ever done diddly squat.

They are sitting there with A+ healthcare paid for by us, while I am sitting here with no healthcare, because I am no where near being able to afford it.

I suppose I could buy a policy, bu then I’d have to buy starvation insurance too.

I have no respect or love for any of these useless friggin’ jerks.

Whether or not they repealed it or the didn’t repeal it, it was still going to be hung around their necks either way, because they are a bunch of retards.

How dare we ask our 176k per yer reps, and that is 101 days of work per year, to put their precious necks on the line for us! How dare we!

What a bunch of dicks.


43 posted on 03/31/2017 9:44:43 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: Parley Baer

Yes!

But WHERE is the Healthcare Bill that presents the elements that the Freedom Caucus says they will support?

And WHY is it taking so long for the Freedom Caucus to “write” that bill?

If the Freedom Caucus is sincere about working with Trump, shouldn’t they WRITE THE BILL and SUBMIT THE BILL!

Otherwise, don’t their “sincerity” and “good faith” become exposed as lies?

IMHO, if the Freedom Caucus is NOT sincere about wanting to work with Trump, then those BSers need to be “primaried” out...

I am so tired of lyin’ RINOs.


44 posted on 03/31/2017 9:45:42 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: sergeantdave
“...the Freedom Caucus is ...insisting that they are willing to work with President Trump

Riiiiiiiiight.

45 posted on 03/31/2017 9:46:05 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Responsibility2nd
Them pesky little conservatives were easier to take out than Pelosi and the democrats. Score one victory for Team Trump.

Funny, this used to be a "conservative" web site.

Now all we have are blatant Socialists who Love their New York Values

46 posted on 03/31/2017 9:46:44 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: wiseprince

How can they possibly be less effective than they already are?

They have literally never effected anything.


47 posted on 03/31/2017 9:47:02 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Then open your damn eyes. These are th guys we’ve spent a decade to get into office and push conservative solutions. How the hell this board is now aligned with Ryan, Rove and the left wing of the party against conservatives is beyond me. The bill sucked. Ryan shouldn’t have presented it. Trump shouldn’t have endorsed it. Big league mistake by the President.


48 posted on 03/31/2017 9:47:30 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: bigbob
Down to 28 goobers now, Poe quit and Ken Buck voted for AHCA and wrote an excellent article outlining why the rest of the FC should, too.

BigBoob - why are you still here? Your Socialist desires are returned with fervor on DU.

DU also loves Obamacare/Trumcare - maybe as much as you

49 posted on 03/31/2017 9:49:38 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: wiseprince
he’ll splinter the group and make them even less effective

Impossible for them to be less effective.

In their entire existence the ONLY Freedom Caucus political/legislative "success" has been stopping Trump.

50 posted on 03/31/2017 9:51:46 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Better than a RINO/RYAN/OBAMACARE snowflake!

Trump had no idea what was is Ryancare, but pushed it anyway because he wanted a win at any cost! Only fools believe there would’ve been phases 2 & 3, and the GOP would’ve owned this disaster! Standing up to socialized medicine isn’t something snowflakes do; caving is what snowflakes like you do.

BTW, JimRob disagrees with you also.


51 posted on 03/31/2017 9:57:39 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: precisionshootist
- Just mythoughts - " Right now, there is NOT one of these 'freedom caucus' members that I find actually 'conservative'... "

Just goes to show that many on this site are NOT "conservative". I would go as far as to say, Many are DU wona-bes

52 posted on 03/31/2017 9:57:55 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: DanZ

Yep. But what do they say about perfect being the enemy of good? Whatever that means.

Any hoo. So Trump and the Ryan RINO’s are pushing ObamaCare 2.0 down our throats.

Let’s all remember it could be worse. We coulda had that drunk falling down old hag.


53 posted on 03/31/2017 9:58:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Artcore

Yes, Trump was wrong too.

Don’t ask me to trust a politician who says wait for phase 2 and 3.

Don’t even bother to ask me.

The whole damned thing and everyone involved in it was a complete debacle.


54 posted on 03/31/2017 10:01:20 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: alloysteel

Our premiums were going up like a rocket long before Obamacare came along. All that did was make them worse.

Obamacare has to be repealed but we need to have trade across state lines as well, to get proper competition that lowers prices. Otherwise the insurance companies will just keep jacking up prices.


55 posted on 03/31/2017 10:02:12 AM PDT by The Numbers (God, Family and Country is Right.)
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To: ilgipper
I did not vote for lyin Ryan to be Speaker of the House. Their colossal ‘big’ mistake. They voted for a snake and got snake bit. Trump did not vote for lying Ryan, now did he.. why do you have double standards?
56 posted on 03/31/2017 10:10:47 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: SeekAndFind

God bless them—and shame on President Trump.


57 posted on 03/31/2017 10:13:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

God is blessing them for keeping lying Ryan in the speaker’s chair.


58 posted on 03/31/2017 10:18:46 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: SeekAndFind

I sent Dave Brat a donation last night for his re-election.


59 posted on 03/31/2017 10:19:47 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Just mythoughts

Check out Dave Brat.
We worked really hard to be rid of the weasel Eric Cantor.
If we had not removed him in June 2014 the Uniparty eunuchs were planning to pass Rubio’s amnesty the very next day to clear that issue off the table for Yeb!.
There would have been no President Trump.


60 posted on 03/31/2017 10:26:42 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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