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NOT backing down: Freedom Caucus stands strong amid attacks from the President
Conservative Review ^
| 03/31/2017
| Chris Pandolfo
Posted on 03/31/2017 8:44:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Though the Freedom Caucus is under assault from all sides, some of its members who have spoken to the media or made public statements are standing strong — insisting that they are willing to work with President Trump to keep the GOP’s promise to repeal Obamacare.
The media has used the failure of the American Health Care Act — Republican leadership’s phony repeal bill — as an excuse to attack conservatives in Congress. The Tea Party members of the Freedom Caucus, who opposed the legislation on grounds that it would not improve the American health insurance market, have been labeled “hardliners” who are unwilling to “compromise” or “get things done.”
President Trump has expressed his frustration with the health insurance bill’s failure in a series of tweets, first suggesting that the Freedom Caucus saved Planned Parenthood funding and Obamacare, and later announcing that if conservatives don’t hop aboard the establishment Republican agenda they will be fought in 2018.
“The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!” the president tweeted.
Some members of the House Freedom Caucus are pushing back on President Donald Trump’s threat to “fight” conservatives in the 2018 midterm primary elections.
"It didn't take long for the swamp to drain [Trump]. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment," Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted.
Freedom Caucus ally Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) also joined in.
So did Rep. Labrador:
Other Freedom Caucus conservatives are being less confrontational. Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) reiterated his support for “actual repeal” of Obamacare, and said he shared the president’s “frustration” with recalcitrant Republicans in Washington D.C.
"The Freedom Caucus is trying to change Washington. This bill keeps Washington the same, plain and simple," Rep. Jordan said on Fox News Thursday.
"We appreciate the president; we are trying to help the president. But the fact is, you have to look at the legislation. It doesn't do what we told the voters we were going to do, and the American people understand that. That's why only 17 percent of the population supports this legislation."
“We want to help the president get a bill that rises above 17% in the polling,” Congressman Dave Brat (R-Va.) told Conservative Review. He said the Freedom Caucus is looking for a bill that will lower premiums by repealing the insurance regulations and mandated health benefits that are driving up the cost of health insurance.
Brat also criticized the mainstream media narrative that the Freedom Caucus sunk Obamacare repeal. “The narrative by the elites and the D.C. cronies and the mainstream media is that ‘we can’t get to yes.’”
“On the facts that’s false,” Brat said. “We voted ‘yes’ 50 times for repeal. And the 2015 bill was unanimous, basically, with Republicans in the House and the Senate.”
Rep. Brat argues that the Freedom Caucus has compromised from voting for that 2015 full repeal of Obamacare to nearly supporting the American Health Care Act, “kind of an Obamacare federal structure that maintains the basic architecture of Obamacare.”
This is not what the conservative base in the Republican Party voted for in 2016. Then again, actually it is.
“The idea that we haven’t moved considerably is just laughable,” Brat said.
Further, “it was clear to Leadership that more moderates were going to vote no if that bill came to the floor than the Freedom Caucus. But that narrative is not as convenient. Once that vote hit 22 ‘Noes’ it was going to go to 60 or 70, is the best estimate.”
Why then are moderates like Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Il.) claiming the Freedom Caucus killed Obamacare repeal?
“They’re just being politically shrewd,” Brat said. “The mainstream media, of course, goes along with that narrative that it's these conservative guys’ fault. It’s the usual D.C. narrative.”
A narrative that President Trump has bought into. But Freedom Caucus conservatives aren’t the only ones making Brat’s point.
Congressman Tom Emmer (R-Minn.) — who is not a member of the Freedom Caucus — told PJ media that “there were probably ten to fifteen members of the Freedom Caucus that were still a no.” However, Emmer estimated that there were “two-thirds to three-quarters of the Freedom Caucus [who] were yes on this bill.” A “vast majority.”
This media narrative blaming the Freedom Caucus is “intentional,” Emmer said.
It always has been this way. You've got to marginalize the conservatives as much as possible. I think this is done both by liberals on the Left as much as liberals on the Right, Walter. The more you can marginalize this group, the less influence they can have, right?...
Marginalizing conservatives is exactly what the moderate Republicans in the Tuesday Group have decided to do. Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), who was the first member of Congress to endorse President Trump, told reporters today that the Freedom Caucus no longer has a seat at the table for negotiations on legislation.
These moderate Republicans refused to go along with a full repeal of Obamacare, and now they are pledging to work with liberal Democrats to pass bad bills rather than use the Republican majority to pass conservative legislation.
It’s compromise with Democrats. Screw the conservatives. Pass liberal legislation that will hurt people. And President Trump is fine with all of it.
This is not what the conservative base in the Republican Party voted for in 2016. Then again, actually it is. The Tea Party took this risk when they handed Trump the Republican nomination in 2016. Donald Trump was never a conservative. He was never anti-establishment.
Some conservatives knew that when they held their nose to beat Hillary Clinton.
Well, the Democrats are out of power and conservatives are still losing. So where do we go from here?
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: boohoo; conservativereview; cultists; fakes; freedomcaucus; healthcare; marklevin; nevertrump; obamacare; populists; reeeeeee; ryancarebillpulled; trumpfreedomcaucus; whining; wofc
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To: reasonisfaith
Stop working for the swamp for once.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:17:34 AM PDT
by
reasonisfaith
("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
To: bigbob
well what do you think their chances are?
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Slim and None. And Slim just left town.
Really nothing has changed much. The Uni Party still reigns. We just have a new Prez.
To: Williams
Some free market reforms? Ryancare was as bad or worse than what we have now.
HFC saved everyone’s butts. If ryancare had passed it would be hung around Trump’s and the repubtard’s necks.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:18:45 AM PDT
by
TheTimeOfMan
(A time for peace and a time for war)
To: sickoflibs
These lazy bums in Congress haven’t passed or been restrained by a budget in years. $10,000,000,000,000,000 overspend in 4 years. Irresponsible criminal jerks.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:20:42 AM PDT
by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
To: Williams
Yes and thats why the freedom caucus shouldnt fall into the Trap of letting nothing being done when some free-market reforms could be introduced into the system. I think given what has been done to date, some would rather Trump fail than accomplishing anything... I have already read some pointing the finger to 'republicans' giving Trump the nomination... even here on FR the smug in name only Conservatives are spewing bash at 'liberal' Trump... one even pointed that Trump putting his daughter in an advisory position caused this mess...
Right now, there is NOT one of these 'freedom caucus' members that I find actually 'conservative'...
To: Hugin
You just described what the freedom caucus is all about.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:22:55 AM PDT
by
reasonisfaith
("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
To: Hugin
I stand with the FC, Lyin Ryan said they would “REPEAL” OC. That bill did not repeal anything, it was a fix. Next year they would have fixed it some more.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:24:50 AM PDT
by
stockpirate
(There is a coup in progress, catch them, try them, HANG THEM ALL)
To: Hugin
The problem with doing nothing being the Republican specialty is that this is the exact mechanism they use to piss off their base enough to hand power back to the Demonrats.
They mind the store while the Demonrats are in disfavor just long enough to infuriate the public enough to put the Demonrats back in charge.
And then the Republicans go back to their other specialty, pretending to be an opposition party.
This is a never ending cycle that benefits no one but the government.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:25:24 AM PDT
by
chris37
(Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
To: SeekAndFind
HfC is Hillary’s Favorite Caucus at this point. Theres no chance the effort to save the country is better off today than last Friday despite Brat’s make believe.
To: SeekAndFind
Some Truths about the House Freedom Caucus
There are a few people here on FR that are lying through their teeth. The HFC is NOT never-Trump, though some did not want him to win the nomination. That is not exactly rare; many here felt the same way. However, most HFC guys did endorse Trump after the nomination, or when it became clear he would win. And none, zero, are currently saying they are "never Trump." If anyone has proof otherwise, post it. Otherwise, you are a liar.
Did the HFC vote for Ryan? Most of them probably. There is no way to actually verify (their membership list is secret). But so did everyone else! The truth is the HFC held their nose and reluctantly voted for Ryan, as they did not want to get into a big speaker fight right before Trump was sworn in. Though I loathe Ryan, I would probably have done the same thing. There were serious discussions behind the scenes of doing it anyway, but they held their noses and voted after Trump indicated he wanted Ryan to stay. But rest assured, Ryan's no friend of the HFC, and vice versa. Blaming the HFC for Ryan being speaker is not just disingenuous, it is a smarmy weasel Sidney Blumenthal pajama-boy type fabrication of the type we despise libs for doing.
The HFC got rid of Boehner.
More below:
Some Truths about the House Freedom Caucus
In before, "The Kochs! The Kochs!!!"
To: SeekAndFind
The Republicans need to be be drained from the swamp, too...
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:28:55 AM PDT
by
ConservaTeen
(Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
To: stockpirate
Well, now Obamacare is still there and the Pubs own it. But I’m sure the nevertrumper HFC are safe in gerrymandered districts. Let’s celebrate! Woo-hoo!
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:29:54 AM PDT
by
Hugin
(Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
To: Artcore
[Youre going to be in for a little surprise!]
What are you going to do?? Act like the whining liberal snowflakes who infest Republican town halls???
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:32:30 AM PDT
by
ObozoMustGo2012
("Be quiet... you are #fakenews!")
To: SeekAndFind
Trump is going to break the caucus. There will be people who “stay strong” but he’ll splinter the group and make them even less effective than they already are. I for one am on board with hearing moderate Democratic ideas and make the bill bi-partisan so it isn’t demagogued forever.
To: Just mythoughts
" Right now, there is NOT one of these 'freedom caucus' members that I find actually 'conservative'... "
What?
How is passing a health care bill that does nothing to lower costs going to help anyone?
Repeal and repeal only !! We don't need ryancare or any other government replacement. Get the hell out of our business !
To: Responsibility2nd
yea but the point is people are acting as if the HFC makes up his base. No, they have hated him since the primaries. People act like he’s not allowed to attack them because they are on his team. No, they also constitute the enemy.
To: Responsibility2nd
The fact that they were nevertrumpers means they didn’t get it. So go to the back of the line.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:37:58 AM PDT
by
reasonisfaith
("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
To: SeekAndFind
Trump will take the Freedom Caucus, put them in a camel clutch, break their back and make them humble!
To: rktman
Point that finger at Paul Ryan and his garbage bill.
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:42:17 AM PDT
by
ilgipper
To: Hugin
In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing. Theodore Roosevelt Quoting one of America's First Socialist Presidents is an indication of your desire for RINO/Democrat Dictatorship for this country
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posted on
03/31/2017 9:43:11 AM PDT
by
DanZ
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