Posted on 03/30/2017 10:30:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Bad move by Trump. Ryan and the globalist big government GOPe RINOs are the problem not the Freedom Caucus. Trump is supposed to be draining the swamp by now, not swimming in it.
Put the interest of American citizens first! Freedom not socialism and tyranny!!
Good grief! Dump Obamacare already! Should have been done on day one and we’d be way on down the road to draining the swamp by now!
We the people have been demanding a full repeal for seven long years and that's the position Trump took with his original health care goal at the beginning of the campaign. What he's doing now is madness and it's quickly destroying any chance of party unity and therefore destroying his chances of accomplishing the rest of hs agenda.
Someone screwed the pooch, BIGLY!
And someone needs to get it back on track, pronto!
This is NOT the decisive action of George S. Patton. It’s the confused inaction of George B. “Little Mac” McClellan!
Where is our U.S. Grant?
Get it together guys or we lose the war.
Well said and spot on. Jim, you’re why this site will never be for those who compromise about conservative values and freedom. God bless you.
I destroyed private Healthcare - signed, Barack Hussein Obama.
No, he did not. He was merely the instrument used. Well, if he did not, who did, then? The voters of America who voted to put the muslim in the White House are the ones that did it.
Oh they gave him the power to do so. He was a cheerleader in selling it. He owns it.
I would like to see Trump to everything he can to sabotage 0-care via policy and executive action to hasten its demise.
Trump should make certain that the IRS doesn’t enforce any mandates. He should be able to do this; 0bama didn’t enforce immigration law. All he’d have to to is go on TV or tweet that he is so sad that Mrs Smith has two jobs and can’t afford a $5000 a year policy with a $10,000 deductible and he won’t force people like that to have to choose between paying an insurance company or paying her rent.
Trump should make every effort for individuals NOT to qualify for subsidies, that way, many more won’t buy the insurance.
He could also threaten states with cutting Federal money for Medicaid if they continue to pay for illegals in their health care systems. Most of 0-care is Medicaid expansion. He could insist that Medicaid money should be used for citizens instead of illegals and that would make more coverage available to working poor. Medicaid money is matched, so the more illegals that get on the more the Feds match.
I would like to see Trump call willing governors together for a conference and grant them waivers if it moves the country away from 0-care. This would be show that he is working for a solution instead of working with phonies like Ryno.
Let’s look at the facts. Trump is no conservative on Health Care. And that’s HOW HE WON Regan democrats and Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Remember the primaries? The first debate when he praised Canadian style universal health care? Running against Cruz that he wants to have people dying in the streets?
But here’s another fact. Neither are Republican voters. They voted for Trump promising “health insurance for everyone.” They didn’t vote for the Freedom Caucus repealing Obamacare and replacing it with nothing. The Freedom Caucus wanted to take away Title 1 benefits in Obamacare which meant no coverage for people with per-existing conditions and a return to medical underwriting. That would have gotten 50 votes in the House and been dead on arrival in the Senate.
Of course it was a political sham for Republicans to vote to repeal 50 times when they were sure Obama would veto it. They are liars. Welcome to the world of politics.
The bill was garbage because it was a compromise between the Freedom Caucus and Moderates where none was possible. Moderates was never going to vote for a bill that took 24 million off the rolls. Freedom Caucus was never going to vote for a bill that didn’t bring us back to the sucky health care world of 2008. That ship has sailed. People now expect government help to buy health insurance. You can’t ever take an entitlement away once it has been handed out. It’s against the laws of politics.
Here’s the thing. The Freedom Caucus did Trump a favor. Repeal/Replace was always doomed to fail. The gap between GOP moderates and conservatives is too wide. If it passed, the Senate would have made it much more moderate (expanded subsidies to old and poor) and more medicaid coverage. It would have gone back to the House and the Freedom Caucus would have killed it but only after months and months and months of fighting. Better to punt now and move on to taxes and infrastructure. Trump knows Repeal/Replace is a dead end and political loser for the GOP. It’s why he was ready to pull the plug after two weeks.
He’s attacking the Freedom Caucus now as a negotiating tactic to peel off some of the weaker members so they won’t screw up his tax reform and infrastructure plans. If Trump is not able to get anything done, say hello to Nancy Pelosi and impeachment in 2019.
I think it should be repealed. Nevertheless, private healthcare has been damaged by Obamacare. A mess very, very difficult to fix. I’m sure it was all an accident. /s
On Trump’s Twitter he calls out some by name on Freedom Caucus to get on board in repealing!
“With no trust, POTUS must move to replace the “prancing ones” with conservatives you want in the fox hole”
and those “conservatives” would be?
Ah Yes You are smarter Than him heh heh Quit it, he is a Billionare, and You are heh heh
Remember when YOU BLOCKED People who were AGAINST Bush II, Yes well... YOU WERE WRONG.
Except they, like they have done for years, “stand on principle” while we go down the drain, rather than fix what you can fix then start again tomorrow on what you didn’t fix.
Sorry, don’t support the Cruz mentality on this.
If you don’t mind...Who asked and who said no...not exactly clear from your post.
A very childish tweet by the man leading our nation in the AM and derision ensues all day long. This is hard to watch a nation implode.
I don’t honestly believe that Trump is getting bogged down in anything. It’s just that he’s using a different tactic than we want him to.
We would LOVE to have a complete repeal with no replace and no input from the RINOs. Honestly, I think that Trump wants about 80% of what we want too.
But we’re goal-oriented thinkers here on FR, and I believe that Trump is a systemic thinker. And patient. On purely executive actions, he is a wonderful President; I find it hard to believe he would so easily break a promise on this, just because Congress.
But whereas he can act independently in executive capacity, he has to play the proverbial game with Congress, and we’re barely past round 1 of potentially dozens of rounds before anything makes it to the President’s desk.
Give short-sited RINOs some of what they want and get some of what he wants in return. Repeat iteration 10-20 times, and in the end it turns out that Trump gets pretty much everything he wants in the long term
To take an overly-confrontational tone this early in the game when no one has been outwardly confrontational except for the HFC would be a bad move in order to build support.
(It’s textbook Tough-But-Fair strategy in game theory too, if you’ll forgive me for pimping a vanity: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3539529/)
Completely agree.
Ryan and McConnell need to let any bill come to a vote.
How about voting for a GOOD BILL in the first place—they had SEVEN YEARS!?!
Jarhead 9297 said it this time in reply #100 so I do not have to:
Find it odd the overwhelming majority aren’t taking exception or raising points with the content of what you’ve posted vs. either directly attacking the messenger or diverting the conversation?
That tells me you’ve raised interesting points that make many are uncomfortable to face. I always put members of this site above all others because of their critical thought processes. When did we lose that?
In your picture, it says Trump will ask Congress to repeal 0bamacare.
He asked and Ryan said “No!”
Replace Russia Russia Russia with Cruz Cruz Cruz and the political opposition is no different
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