Posted on 03/30/2017 4:45:10 AM PDT by nathanbedford
That Was Then But This Is Now
1. LOCK HER UP.
Donald Trump Then:
After FBI Director James Comey in July recommended not charging Clinton, Trump cited it as evidence the election was “rigged” and said the FBI “rolled over.”
He pledged to appoint a special prosecutor, and even told Clinton during a debate that if he were president, “you’d be in jail.”
Donald Trump Now:
But after he won the election, Trump said he wouldn’t recommend prosecuting Clinton, saying she already “suffered greatly” and that it’s “just not something I feel very strongly about.”
Trump was speaking in Grand Rapids, Mich., as part of his “thank you” tour when he heard some chants of “lock her up” - a common refrain during his campaign events.
“That plays great before the election - now we don't care, right?” Trump responded, according to CNN.
2. DACA
Donald Trump Then:
Opposed DACA and DAPA and called Obama's executive orders on DACA and DAPA “one of the most unconstitutional actions ever undertaken by a President.” –
(https://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_candidates_on_DACA_and_DAPA)
“We will immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties in which he defied federal law and the constitution to give amnesty to approximately 5 million illegal immigrants,” Trump said at an August speech in Arizona, where immigration hard-liner Joe Arpaio introduced him.
( http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316207-immigration-hawks-pressure-trump-on-campaig )
Donald Trump Now:
“They got brought here at a very young age, they’ve worked here, they’ve gone to school here. Some were good students. Some have wonderful jobs. And they’re in never-never land because they don’t know what’s going to happen,” Trump said in an interview with Time.
In an interview that aired Wednesday, Trump said DACA participants shouldn't be "very worried."
“They shouldn’t be very worried, I do have a big heart. We’re going to take care of everybody, we’re going to have a very strong border, we’re going to have a very solid border,” Trump told ABC's David Muir. “You have great people that are here that have done a good job, they should be far less worried.”
( http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316207-immigration-hawks-pressure-trump-on-campaign-promise )
3. AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
Donald Trump Then:
As he campaigned for the White House that he declared in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes”: “I am going to take care of everybody … Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.” More recently, Trump has promised that repeal will end with “a beautiful picture.”
( http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-obamacare-promises-236021 )
Donald Trump Now:
The White House said Monday that President Trump is “absolutely” serious about working with Democrats on health-care legislation and other priorities after conservative Republicans balked at a GOP plan to repeal and replace Obamacare.
“We learned a lot through this process,” said White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. “If we can come up with resolution on a way to move forward, we’ll certainly entertain that. I don’t think we’ve seen the end of health care.”
Mr. Trump criticized the conservative House Freedom Caucus for failing to support the administration-backed bill last week, saying they were allowing Obamacare to remain in place and permitting federal funding for Planned Parenthood.
Asked if working with Democrats would require a serious course correction by the administration, Mr. Spicer said, “Sure.”
( http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/27/donald-trump-says-hes-absolutely-serious-about-wor/ )
I’ve seen a lot of bullying and uncivilized behavior lately. It’s bad for the site.
I still don’t see you in that light, however. Maybe I’ve missed something, but the vast majority of times I’ve observed your posts, they have been issue-driven and on point. Ganging up on a single poster for a perceived offense doesn’t seem to be your style.
Fwiw.
I agree. This article is wasted on me.
I’m disappointed to ‘hear’ that calling a fellow resaercher an ‘a-hole’ is no big deal on the forum anymore.
...ping....
Not following you. Do you mean we should let the Obama Clinton criminals get away with their crimes?
FIRST TIME I smell something foul. Trump is not at all easily duped. But this is new to him.....damn.
Tbh, I didn’t see the post in which that happened. Otoh, the poster you’re defending called me plenty of names quite recently. It cuts both ways.
Yes it was Trump’s words. The words about promises being broken were yours and to me inappropriate.
My old FRiend and fellow fantasy enthusiast ....
I would be delighted to go after people who insult you that roughly too.
I’m not online that much at the moment, but if you link me to them in private messaging I’ll check it out when there’s time.
I had hoped that Ryan was coercing Trump to dance through his hoops, but threatening a primary fight against the Freedom Caucus ... I hope Hannity clears it up.
You purposely dissemble as oft before. Trump’s words are not innapropriate now or then as a statement of resolve or intent. What is inappropriate is the suggestion that if a promise is not fullfilled in its entirety in 60 days or less than its sell date is passed.
Is that the standard you hold yourself to or that any other president has been held to? Americans understand that there are 3 branches of government and Trump is one of those. He can promise to do his utmost and to see it through but it is ridiculous not to factor in the situation as a whole and the things he can accomplish himself vs the things he needs to work towards accomplishing with the other branches.
“Haters going to hate” while the rest of us can focus on getting things done with the tools we have.
I had actually noticed you hadn’t been posting as much for a while. It made me a bit sad. But then all of a sudden you posted one of your cutting-edge analysis pieces, and it brought a smile to my face. :)
What’s passed is past (if I’m saying that right). If I get in a rude/name-calling situation in the future, it’s reassuring to know I can PM you.
Thanks!!
Americans understand that there are 3 branches of government and Trump is one of those. He can promise to do his utmost and to see it through but it is ridiculous not to factor in the situation as a whole and the things he can accomplish himself vs the things he needs to work towards accomplishing with the other branches.
Well, Americans also understand that criminal prosecution is entirely in the hands of one branch of government, Donald Trump's branch of government, the executive. No branch can stop him nor has any branch attempted to stop him from empanelling a grand jury, rendering up an indictment and bringing her to trial. He has not done so in 69 days and, quite to the contrary, has in his unfettered state expressed an intention not to do so.
I think most Americans understand who is dissembling about his executive powers to bring on an indictment!
Considering the question of Rino Care, it is not I but Donald Trump himself who today has attacked the most conservative elements of an another branch of government, the Freedom Caucus, and threatened not only to abandon them but to campaign against them while he makes common cause with Democrats!
You say it is too soon to criticize the president under these circumstances. I think we are entitled to ask, how many betrayals must we suffer in silence before we are permitted to speak out? Are we to find the whole of the conservative agenda betrayed before we speak? Are we not entitled to speak out now try to save what is salvageable? Can we not speak out to prevent the executive branch selling out to the Democrats in the legislative branch? If not now, when?
As to DACA, the president has made his intentions plain enough. The time has past when we should be silenced in the face of a flat reversal of his campaign posture. Words have meaning, even if uttered by Donald Trump. I do not criticize Trump for his reversals on travel ban caused by a third branch of government, the judiciary, I do criticize Trump for a reversal of DACA caused not by a co-equal branch of government but by Trump's own betrayal.
The conservative cause is far more important than Donald Trump. He has no right to gag us from observing the obvious, especially when the obvious has been expressed by Trump himself.
… focus on getting things done with the tools we have.
On Free Republic we have but one tool, the tool of speech. That includes Donald Trump's speech.
Have at it. You have the right to speak your mind. When we post on this forum we are inviting comment and counterargument. Do not be so incensed that you have gotten some. I think Trump is more of a chess player than a bull so I am content based on his actions to think that there are parts of his plan I am not privy to and that there may be wheels within wheels. I am not concerned that he is butting heads with the Freedom Caucus. Some of them are good, some are deadbeats and they are posturing as well. The direction over all is so much better than Obama or Hillary and to me is c/w his campaign.
I think we look at the world quite differently, you & I. I think behind the scenes enough documentation is being sewn up so that when Hillary is indited it will be ironclad and there will be no odor of payback or partisan attack. Trump needs to let the people he appointed assemble the case and not appear to be leading or demanding it. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.
More and more about the corruption in Washington is emerging brought out by white hats, whistleblowers and the missteps of the enemies that attack Trump and his cabinet. I am glad that Trump is not rushing into an action against Hillary. That woud take all of the oxygen out of the room and imperil actions that are needed for the wellbeing of America & all Americans even if they have less of the fireworks about them.
He laughs best who laughs last.
Ya know, I’ve got this swell bridge up in the Bay area for sale....
I’m not surprised you are from the San Fran area. Congratulations.
Wrong. “I’m a good ol’ rebel.”
+1
I don’t know the final answer to what Russia’s intentions are.
Their interests in having trading partners and buffer nations are real enough.
Do they want Iran to have nuclear weapons, only they know?
The one thing I feel certain of is an Arab-Israeli under the table alliance linked to the Arab Spring rebellions, conflicts etc....
It will confront Syria and Iran first but later on its likely to unleash a ‘two-state solution’ for the Palestinians and expel Jews from homes in Judaea and Samaria to achieve it.
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