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This healthcare debate among the GOP factions is absolutely stupid and counterproductive

Posted on 03/26/2017 5:08:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

This is absolutely stupid. These long drawn out debates within the GOP struggling to settle on the nitty gritty about what and who should be covered and at what price is ridiculous. It's NOT your job, gentlemen. All you are doing is playing into the socialist democrats hands.

Please consult your pocket constitutions and discover that the power to make these decisions regarding health care and insurance, etc, is not an enumerated power and is not delegated by the constitution to the congress or the federal government. It's reserved to the states and the people. Get OUT of it!!

Conservatives and Republicans fight against this unconstitutional intrusive big government socialist crap, remember?

Mr. President, I know that you are a compassionate guy and you like to take care of the people, but our federal government was not established to be a charity to take care of the poor. This was all left to the local and state governments and the people to decide. Charity is a societal or local government issue, not federal government. Insurance is in the domain of free enterprise. You need to get your people out of it, and concentrate on your primary constitutional responsibilities: National defense, national security, border security, foreign relations, trade, making sure our federal courts and constitutionally authorized departments are manned with constitutional-minded people and that they are faithfully and efficiently executing the constitutional laws to the best of their abilities. Keep the waste and fraud and corruption OUT! Keep the cost of government and taxes down. Do not allow the federal government to put up unconstitutional or unnecessary regulations or obstacles to free enterprise.

You want to go down in history as the most successful president in history and the one that saves the nation and our liberty?

If so, repeal and dump Obamacare and all the other wasteful unconstitutional crap you can right now, early in your first term. Do your homework, find out which departments and programs are dragging down the economy, dump them, and cut deeply into the deadwood wherever possible.

Write off and dump everything you possibly can and take all your big lumps in your first year or two. Get all the losing crap behind you and then start building on your successes with your new lean and mean constitutional machine.

Like the man said. Go BIG and go BOLD! Repeal, cut, slash, rip, burn and abolish (rinse and repeat)!

Drain the swamp and MAGA!

Oh, yeah. And don't count on Lyin' Ryan, Turtle McConnell or any other big government establishment RINO. You were elected to fight against the establishment jackasses, not to join them. Remember?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; FReeper Editorial; Free Republic; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: freeenterprise; healthcare; insurance; jimrob; localissue; obamacare; private; ryan; ryancare; ryancarebillpulled; stateissue; statesrights; trump
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen Jim, Amen


41 posted on 03/26/2017 5:49:30 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree wholeheartedly Jim!


42 posted on 03/26/2017 5:50:52 PM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: joesbucks

Senate passed bill Thursday night

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3538291/posts

Out of the glare of media.


43 posted on 03/26/2017 5:51:56 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT A)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
With all due respect to Pres. Trump, my concern is that constitutionally low-information (imo) Trump is being “assimilated” by the Borg (Star Trek) (aka, uniparty, corrupt Congress).

In other words, I’m sure that the uniparty is teaching Trump everything that he needs to know about Congress’s constitutionally limited powers. /sarc

44 posted on 03/26/2017 5:56:26 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Jim Robinson

I respect your opinion but i think unraveling in steps makes more sense and much less risky. Or let it fail and go from there.


45 posted on 03/26/2017 5:56:51 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: crz

Means trade goods should move freely among the states with no tariffs or duties or other obstructions attached. Has nothing whatsoever to do with health care or health care insurance (or the manufacturing, production processes, etc, btw).


46 posted on 03/26/2017 5:59:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said, Jim.


47 posted on 03/26/2017 6:01:26 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Jim Robinson

President Trump has encountered the type of obstacles he will face in ‘draining the swamp’.

The companies benefiting from ObamaCare put a lousy replacement in front of the consumers.

The government bureaucrats helped make it as onerous as Obamacare.

The RINO’s gleefully advanced a lousy bill that guaranteed a continuation of big government.

Cleaning up the DC mess will not be easy. Trump was elected on MAGA and Drain the Swamp promises. Just do it.


48 posted on 03/26/2017 6:04:43 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Jim Robinson

Back to the states it should go ...

And selling across state lines should also be left up to the individual states .... not mandated by fedgov ...


49 posted on 03/26/2017 6:09:21 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: bankwalker

selling across state lines should also be left up to the individual states .... not mandated by fedgov ...


It seems the Commerce Clause in the Constitution would override anybody who would prevent an insurer from selling across state lines.

I suspect the reason we have 50 State Insurance Commissions is that the Insurance Companies like it that way.


50 posted on 03/26/2017 6:13:38 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: rwoodward

Unraveling in steps means it’ll never happen. You have to yank the chain to flush the crap.


51 posted on 03/26/2017 6:14:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen again Jim!


52 posted on 03/26/2017 6:18:11 PM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

No. Insurance is a financial service and different states have different rules on what can be sold to their residents.

All types of insurance get sold by companies across state lines now. The policies must be worded to be compliant in the state it is sold into.

An insurance policy is just a contract.


53 posted on 03/26/2017 6:34:49 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: Enterprise

The federal government needs to get out of every aspect of health care. That means repealing Obamacare, Medicaid, Medicare and the Social Security disability program. We also need to dismantle the VA and leave it to the states to care for veterans as they see fit.


54 posted on 03/26/2017 6:35:06 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: Yaelle
I think you presume that Mr Trump is capable of giving that informative fireside chat with the American people. I doubt it. And I don't say that as a pejorative. I didn't vote for him expecting a firm constitutionalist, rather to provide cover for the feckless Republicans to be courageous for a change, at the same time keeping the constitutional reins tight. Imagine my surprise (not) when the Pubs at the first sign of resistance opted for ACA Lite, rather than rubbing the Dems' noses in the mess they had created. So, to summarize​, the only ones interested in that fireside chat are those who are taking the heat for their principles. I doubt that the leadership plans on giving them a national stage.
55 posted on 03/26/2017 6:36:38 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

And also insurance companies would rather not deal with 50 different regulatory agencies. It is easier for them to deal with one.


56 posted on 03/26/2017 6:38:33 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: hoosiermama
But they also need D votes to pass replace. As soon as it’s written off stage watch how quickly it will all fall in place with bipartisan support.

D's helping to give us healthcare. What could possibly go wrong.

57 posted on 03/26/2017 7:04:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
NP's and PA's are already doing a massive amount of medicine.
58 posted on 03/26/2017 7:32:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No.. Nurse practitioners, nurses and medical assistants are decidedly not anywhere near as capable as a medical doctor with undergraduate prerequisites 4 years of a decent med school, a year of internship and 3 to 5 years of a residency and perhaps even a fellowship.

Do not be fooled.

Proprietary schools are turning out those types of para medical personnel who are no where near as vigorously trained as even the ones with the same degrees 2o years ago.


59 posted on 03/26/2017 7:35:30 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Jim Robinson

MAGA bump!


60 posted on 03/26/2017 8:15:21 PM PDT by upchuck (U have not lived today until u have done something for someone who can never repay u ~ John Bunyan)
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