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Gun Owners of America: Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.0 Still Contains Gun Control
Breitbart ^ | 03/22/2017 | Awr Hawkins

Posted on 03/22/2017 5:36:06 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

Gun Owners of America (GOA) is warning that House Speaker Paul Ryan’s Obamacare 2.o still contains measures that will allow doctors, insurance companies, and the ATF to use medical records to further a gun control agenda.

GOA points out that it opposed “the original Obamacare” because it threatened Second Amendment rights and they are concerned about Ryan’s new healthcare push for the same reasons.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; gop4obamacare; gop4romneycare; gopliars; gopvsamerica; guncontrol; obamacare; rinocare; ryan
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1 posted on 03/22/2017 5:36:06 PM PDT by ForYourChildren
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To: ForYourChildren

Ya...

Of course!


2 posted on 03/22/2017 5:36:20 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

Sorry, kill it and get rid of the incompetents who put this garbage together. Get someone ruthless who will get the job done right.


3 posted on 03/22/2017 5:38:04 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ForYourChildren

DEFEAT RINOCARE!! I am doing all I can. FREE MARKET NOT COMMUNISM!!


5 posted on 03/22/2017 5:39:53 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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To: ForYourChildren

This Lyin’ Ryan bastard has to go. If this fails tomorrow, he will hopefully be replaced as speaker.


6 posted on 03/22/2017 5:40:29 PM PDT by Fungi (Five genera of fungi are responsible for 90% of all inhaled fungi. Breathing is not healthy.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Some of these groups I used to think were good, are turning out to just scams to support the lifestyles of the organizers. The gun stuff in Obamacare is a regulation “as the Secretary shall determine” and is going away in Phase II. This can start next week if the Congress Critters just get on board and Pass Phase I.


7 posted on 03/22/2017 5:44:46 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ForYourChildren

OMG! Ryan is a real back-stabber!

He MUST be voted OUT, ASAP!

how soon can be be removed? is there a campaign to replace him? or?


8 posted on 03/22/2017 5:46:27 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: SubMareener

This proves the GOP can NEVER be trusted.

THEY RAN ON REPEAL, but lied, like they always lie.


9 posted on 03/22/2017 5:47:16 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: faithhopecharity

Ryan, like every congressman, is up for reelection every two years, meaning 2018. He was primaried in 2016 and won 81% of the vote against his primary challenger. He isn’t going anywhere.


10 posted on 03/22/2017 5:48:17 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Repeal and replace!

Djt


11 posted on 03/22/2017 5:48:56 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: ForYourChildren

7% eddie is just a better looking Pelosi.
Remove the traitor!


12 posted on 03/22/2017 5:49:55 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: All

blah blah blah

Offer up text to remove this that qualifies for budget Reconciliation or be quiet. Vette through the Parliamentarian or you have nothing.

Well, wait, that’s extreme. Show 8 Dem Senators who will support your text as well as the 52 GOP Senators and you have something.

Otherwise, you are babbling to hear yourself babble.


13 posted on 03/22/2017 5:51:59 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Diogenesis

Is President Donald J. Trump telling you that this is the first phase of a Repeal and Replace? Has he ever let you down?

Hate to be the one who has to introduce some actual facts into this debate, but here is the Congressional Research Service summary of the “Obamacare Repeal” Bill Passed by the House and Senate and vetoed by President Obama. Looks more like “Obamacare Defund” to me.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3762?r=1

Shown Here:
Passed Senate amended (12/03/2015)

TITLE I—HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOR, AND PENSIONS

(Sec. 101) This bill amends the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) to terminate the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which provides for investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and restrain the rate of growth in health care costs. Unobligated funds are rescinded.

(Sec. 102) Funding for community health centers is increased.

(Sec. 103) Certain funding for U.S. territories that establish health insurance exchanges is no longer available after 2017.

(Sec. 104) The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) may not collect fees or make payments under the transitional reinsurance program.

(Sec. 105) This bill makes appropriations for FY2016 and FY2017 for HHS to award grants to states to address substance abuse or to respond to urgent mental health needs.

TITLE II—FINANCE

(Sec. 201) This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to require individuals to pay back the full amount of advance payments in excess of their premium assistance tax credit. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of excess an individual must pay back.)

(Sec. 202) Provisions relating to the premium assistance tax credit, reduced cost-sharing, and eligibility determinations for these subsidies are repealed on December 31, 2017.

(Sec. 203) The small employer health insurance tax credit does not apply after 2017. (This credit is for certain employers who make contributions toward employee health coverage purchased through a health insurance exchange.)

(Sec. 204) The penalty for individuals who do not maintain minimum essential health care coverage is eliminated.

(Sec. 205) Large employers are no longer required to make shared responsibility payments.

(Sec. 206) For one year, this bill restricts the availability of federal funding to a state for payments to an entity (e.g., Planned Parenthood Federation of America) that:

is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization;
is an essential community provider primarily engaged in family planning services and reproductive health;
provides for abortions other than abortions in cases of rape or incest, or where a physical condition endangers a woman’s life unless an abortion is performed; and
received a total of more than $350 million under Medicaid in FY2014, including payments to affiliates, subsidiaries, successors, or clinics.

(Sec. 207) This bill amends part A (General Provisions) of title XI of the Social Security Act (SSAct) to require the additional payments to U.S. territories for Medicaid under the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 to be made by the end of FY2017 instead of the end of FY2019.

This bill amends title XIX (Medicaid) of the SSAct to end the expansion of Medicaid under PPACA on December 31, 2017.

After 2017, hospitals may no longer elect to provide Medicaid services to individuals during a presumptive eligibility period.

States must maintain Medicaid eligibility standards for individuals under 19 years old through FY2017 instead of through FY2019.

The federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP, the federal matching rate for Medicaid expenditures) for U.S. territories is 50% after 2017 (currently, the FMAP is 55%).

The increased FMAP for childless adults and home and community-based attendant services under PPACA ends December 31, 2017.

After 2017, states may no longer elect to provide certain individuals with a presumptive eligibility period for Medicaid.

Medicaid benchmark plans are no longer required to provide minimum essential health benefits after 2017.

After 2017, states are no longer required to operate a website for Medicaid enrollment that is linked to the state’s health benefit exchange and Children’s Health Insurance program (CHIP).

(Sec. 208) Medicaid allotments for disproportionate share hospitals are increased.

(Sec. 209) The excise tax on high cost employer-sponsored health coverage (popularly known as the “Cadillac tax”) does not apply after 2017.

(Sec. 210) Health savings accounts (HSAs), Archer medical savings accounts (MSAs), health flexible spending arrangements (HFSAs), and health reimbursement arrangements may be used to pay for over-the-counter medications.

(Sec. 211) This bill lowers the tax on distributions from HSAs and Archer MSAs that are not used for medical expenses.

(Sec. 212) Salary reduction contributions to an HFSA under a cafeteria plan are no longer limited.

(Sec. 213) The annual fee on manufacturers and importers of brand name prescription drugs is eliminated.

(Sec. 214) The excise tax on medical devices is eliminated.

(Sec. 215) The annual fee on health insurers is eliminated.

(Sec. 216) Medical costs are allowed as a tax deduction regardless of whether the costs are taken into account when determining the amount of the subsidy for an employer-sponsored retiree prescription drug plan under Medicare part D (Voluntary Prescription Drug Benefit Program).

(Sec. 217) A tax deduction is allowed for medical expenses in excess of 7.5% (currently, 10%) of adjusted gross income.

(Sec. 218) The additional Medicare tax on income above a certain threshold is eliminated.

(Sec. 219) The indoor tanning services tax is eliminated.

(Sec. 220) The net investment income tax is eliminated.

(Sec. 221) A health insurer is allowed a tax deduction for the full amount of an employee’s compensation. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of an employee’s compensation that a health insurer may deduct.)

(Sec. 222) Provisions relating to the economic substance doctrine are repealed. (The economic substance doctrine treats a transaction as having economic substance if it has a purpose other than reducing income taxes. Currently, there are penalties for claiming tax benefits for transactions without economic substance.)

(Sec. 223) Funds are transferred from the Department of the Treasury to the Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund.


14 posted on 03/22/2017 5:52:09 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ForYourChildren

A hunter needs a gun and knowledge of habits and organ placement of animals... and liberals want to give those keys to government unfetered in perversion in the Garden of Eden

Paul Ryan is a sick individual


15 posted on 03/22/2017 5:53:01 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Publius

oh yes, he’s in the house not the senate. ok, every two years. hopefully somebody that can win can primary him in 2018 then.
i am sick of reading about his tricks and back-peddling on the election program, promises, expectations

not to mention our constitutionally-recognized rights as citizens


16 posted on 03/22/2017 5:54:24 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Publius

Eric Cantor beat his first primary challenge by similar numbers in 2012. We threw him out in 2014.


17 posted on 03/22/2017 5:54:28 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ForYourChildren

#JustRepealObamacare !!!


18 posted on 03/22/2017 5:56:17 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: JudgemAll

For the zillionth time, and frankly you all know it but are just posturing for NO REAL REASON, Ryan is constrained by what can pass the Senate.

Let’s all repeat that. Ryan is constrained by what can pass the Senate.

He can do a Pelosi and send a bill over that CANNOT pass, but that wastes time. Instead, he’s learning from her fiasco in 2010 and not eating up weeks sending over a bill that cannot get past the 60 vote requirement.

This doesn’t make him evil. It doesn’t make him a vile left wing plant. It makes him efficient.

Oh, and before y’all blab how you don’t need 60, I’ll paste reality:

In the interests of putting some things to bed:

1) No, Mike Pence can’t ignore the Parliamentarian. This would be the mechanism in effect of making all bills budget reconciliation bills. That obviously is just a way to kill the filibuster in the Senate. It would not get even 10 votes. That’s why this proposal has already been dismissed as a non starter.

2) You can stop filibuster in ways not requiring 60 votes? No. You can’t. People are saying this via the Two Speech Rule. Senators are limited to 2 speeches per legislative day on a given subject. So glory be, you can require them to talk, they’re only allowed to talk twice and you shut them down without 60 votes! Bullshit. Completely wrong.

Senators are allowed to offer amendments to a bill. They can then give two speeches on each amendment. A minority can propose zillions of amendments. You CAN limit the number of amendments (NO senators like being limited in amendments) but then if you do that, senators can raise points of order and give two speeches on those. No limit on points of order.

Here’s discussion of this from 2010, when the Dems were raging at the power of the GOP filibusters.

https://shadowproof.com/2010/02/12/talking-filibuster-enforcing-%E2%80%9Ctwo-speech-rule%E2%80%9D-will-not-fix-broken-senate/

Bottom line: THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. If there were a way around 60 votes that does not constrain to Reconciliation, the Dems would have used it. There is nothing new under the sun in all this. The GOP is not going to discover any genius maneuver. The Dems would have discovered it in 2010 if there were.

The Filibuster is what spared the country from a single payer Canada NHS style healthcare plan. Only the Filibuster and Scott Brown stopped that. You will not find even 10 votes to kill the Filibuster for non USSC issues.


19 posted on 03/22/2017 5:57:28 PM PDT by Owen
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To: ForYourChildren

If Ryancare passes, it will taint President Trump's one-term presidency. For many of his followers, the honeymoon will be over. There are dozens of loopholes and intrusive provisions in Ryancare.

One of the worst features of Ryancare is that it provides for free health insurance for illegal aliens. It was removed initially, but slipped back in under cover of darkness.

President Trump, please don't forget the immortal words of G.H.W. Bush: "Read my lips …"

20 posted on 03/22/2017 5:57:55 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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