The pre-vote surveillance is someplace. It has to be because that’s what they’re basing the Russian controversy on.
The “incidental” collection was an excuse.
Why was Barky spying on the Russian Ambassador in the first place?
Here me now listen later.
This is the follow up question that the congresswoman from Albany should have asked. If Comey was investigating Trump since July 2016 why did he NOT wiretap his phones? If there was a real concern with Russian connections why didn’t they do their jobs and listen to the conversations?
Here’s the answer Comey can’t give.
There never was an investigation in July. But now that Trump knows they were listening to his calls they need to cover their ass and say there was an investigation. Also since it was released that they had Flynn’s calls the cat is out of the bag. Obama’s policy change to release raw collection data to all intel agencies thinking it will help trip Trump up actually may be what exposes the corrupt intel, DOJ, FBI and Obama admins. Now that the raw data is out there it can be exposed and they are worried. So they have to make up a back story on why the collected Trump phone calls.
transition team may have been monitored
may have and BOMBSHELL.
it’s like the primaries again :)
#### the CIA and the FBI and the RINOs
I don’t believe even physical evidence for or against anyone anymore
I just want Trump to keep changing the country while they play their games.
Why isn’t it a bigger story that Barky was spying on the Russian ambassador?
Incidental and THEN the day before he leaves office Obama gives all that information and power to his minions spread throughout the bureaucracy. Obama needs to have his ass hauled before congress and testify.
Appears that Trump is vindicated.
Again.
Nunes did not want to let Schiff warn scumbags to flee the country.
The Slimes forgets that the Internet is forever.
But infowars Alex Jones is supposed to be a lunatic.
Infowars just broke the biggest story of the decade.
what did the other ‘news’ sources do?? The Russians did it.
LOL
And I’m right again.
Been explaining FISA, CALEA and 1996 Telecom Law to my friends on the other side, who are calling Trump a liar.
History lessons on telecom and how we got here [gov spying on all citizens]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3032748/posts
They tell us today they don’t collect locations of cell phone trawled for in pursuit of a target named in a warrant.
I want you to understand when they issue a warrant, many times, with “Reasonable Cause” They are violating the Constitution by:
1. Using “Reasonable Cause” as the basis for a warrant. The Constitution requires no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause.
2. supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
As to point 2. above wrap your head around “Whole Pipe” Access. Here they have granted themselves direct access to the Whole Pipe of transmission of information, be that voice or data and includes every last relevant part of a transmission, including location of cell phone at any time during transmission of wink/wink, keep alive, GPS, txt, email, incoming and outgoing calls.
Whole pipe access trawls every device transmitting during the time the NSA, DOJ, DEA and FBI is gathering information on a target. There is a technical reason for why they do this but, I still believe it is against the law for them to gather information, especially as a matter of habit, course and intent, of innoccent people, organizations, enterprises and groups, who have not been named in the warrant haven’t even a tangential relationship to the target named in the warrant.
Service providers are required by to provide all information transmitted by a cell phone, VoIP, PSTN, FAX, VPN, etc inclding CLLI and any and all information that would identify where a transmission geographically begins and ends, as well where the device is when idle.
Now, I purposely misspelled searcches in the title of the thread. Why? Because frequently the information they are targeting is just that much incorrect. Think about that and what I wrote as you delve into my article explaning the history, laws passed, and technical means.
You’ll agree with me, that the NSA and the other alphabet agencies are flat out lying when they claim they don’t don’t do this or that. They do because of the technical means they use to achieve their aims and also because they have less reason to not keep all that is caught in the trawling of a Whole Pipe, during their unConstitutional search and they, having no client to defend will, have, do and will continue to archive any all information they obtain unlawfully.
I’m of the opinion there was a FISA warrant on calls and The Target Was Not Trump but, he and his “employees” or “representatives” were caught up in the call.
Where the crime exists is that under Whole Pipe Access anyone incidental or inadvertent to the target were suppose to be “minimized” or “Masked”.
Someone unlawfully leaked this stuff and the Flynn fiasco.
Everyone of these Asshats are liars.
>> Was Monitored
>> may have been monitored
“President-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored”
For crying’ out loud, of course they were. Comey said there was an investigation underway last year. Please explain to me how the FBI conducts an investigation WITHOUT SURVEILLANCE !!!
Wake me up when The Beast is in jail.
Bump
I think it’s obvious what they’re doing. They use the excuse of “incidental collection during the investigation into other entities” so they can’t be held to “you investigated Trump illegally”. So, come up with some nonsense “evidence”, probably planted by CIA/NSA, so that somebody close to Trump can be the subject of surveillance and voila! we “accidentally” have transcripts of Trump’s phone calls.
Bumping to keep this at the top.