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About time. DoJ seeks to strip convicted terrorist of citizenship
Hotair ^ | 03/22/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/22/2017 8:40:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Back in 2003 Iyman Faris was convicted of a rather scatterbrained plot to take down the Brooklyn Bridge by cutting the structure’s support cables. He was planning to do this in collusion with Al Qaeda as part of a possible second wave of attacks against the United States. He was given a rather lengthy jail term but he’s due to be released in December 2020. So what happens then? He’s a naturalized citizen of Pakistani birth, but the Justice Department is now looking to change that situation by stripping him of said citizenship and ejecting him from the country. (Associated Press)

The Department of Justice has taken the rare step of seeking to strip a convicted terrorist of his U.S. citizenship as he serves the last several years of a 20-year prison sentence for plotting to destroy New York’s Brooklyn Bridge.

Some national security experts suggested Tuesday the move might signal a new, tougher line under President Donald Trump.

The case involves Iyman Faris, 47 and born in Pakistan, who was sentenced in 2003 for aiding and abetting the al-Qaida terrorist group with his plan to cut through cables that support the iconic bridge. At the time, it was among the highest profile terrorism cases in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Can we really do this? I certainly hope so, and all signs point to there being precedent for such an action. You can’t take away the citizenship of a natural born American citizen, but we have revoked that status for naturalized citizens in the past, including Nazis who were discovered living here after having fled Europe following World War II.

Amazingly, there are already people raising a fuss over this and saying that it would set a bad precedent. Really? Faris had worked briefly as a double agent for the FBI but confessed to being part of the infamous terrorist network and plotting one of the more devastating attacks we would have ever seen on American soil had he succeeded. Critics of this proposal seem to be implying that taking away his citizenship would constitute extra punishment not provided for under the law. Perhaps that’s true, but terror attacks seem to fall into a rather unique niche of the American justice system.

As much as some may wish it weren’t so, we actually do have two “classes” of citizenship. It’s laid out right in the Constitution and affects one’s eligibility to run for president. There actually are differences between natural born and naturalized citizens. The naturalized citizen essentially signs a contract to obtain that status and part of that agreement is a pledge to support and defend their new country. It seems to go without saying that Faris has violated his side of the bargain. In that light, the revocation of citizenship and deportation wouldn’t actually be “extra punishment” for his terror plot, but more of a technicality of violating his agreement.

I would say, however, that we need to proceed with caution here. One thing we don’t want to set ourselves up for is a situation where naturalized citizens convicted of more mundane infractions suddenly find themselves being booted out of the country. But it seems to me that we can make an exception when it comes to terrorists.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: citizenship; doj; iymanfaris; terrorism

1 posted on 03/22/2017 8:40:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Can we really do this?

Of course it can be done.

2 posted on 03/22/2017 8:46:27 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly, I’m not all that bothered about expanding the crimes that can get a person sent back to the old country.

Murder
Carjacking
Invasion robbery
Burglary

Yeah, we expect you to be a good citizen. Who knew?


3 posted on 03/22/2017 8:46:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Robert DeLong

And needs to be!


4 posted on 03/22/2017 8:48:05 AM PDT by CMSMC
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To: SeekAndFind
I would say, however, that we need to proceed with caution here. One thing we don’t want to set ourselves up for is a situation where naturalized citizens convicted of more mundane infractions suddenly find themselves being booted out of the country. But it seems to me that we can make an exception when it comes to terrorists.

List of denaturalized former citizens of the United States

5 posted on 03/22/2017 8:54:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

YES! I agree with the headline — About time!


6 posted on 03/22/2017 8:56:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DoughtyOne

What about what they call “honor killing?” It’s still murder!


7 posted on 03/22/2017 8:57:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Very proper thing to do. Throw him out! We have artificially made so many US Citizens that are _pieceful_. The least we can do is undo that whenever they give us any trouble at all.


8 posted on 03/22/2017 8:59:06 AM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: SeekAndFind

About time. Other countries strip jihadists of citizenship, we should, too.


9 posted on 03/22/2017 9:02:49 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: CMSMC

Without question. 8>)


10 posted on 03/22/2017 9:09:44 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind

>> ... stripping him of said citizenship and ejecting him from the country. <<
Stripping him of his citizenship. OK
Ejecting him from the country. Either lock him in a small cell for eternity or execute the SOB. If he is ejected then he will be free to create mayhem and even come back.


11 posted on 03/22/2017 9:50:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Salvation

There are a number of things I’d add to that list.

That certainly qualifies.

Let them do their time here, and boot boot boot...


12 posted on 03/22/2017 2:44:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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