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Gorsuch’s pro-illegal immigrant ruling roils confirmation debate
Washington Times ^ | March 22, 2017 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 03/22/2017 6:42:50 AM PDT by rdl6989

Judge Neil Gorsuch repeatedly defended an “undocumented immigrant” against the massive crush of the administrative state during his confirmation hearing Tuesday, picking a fascinating fight with his potential future colleagues on the Supreme Court. The case he was referring to — a 2016 ruling from the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in which he wrote both the opinion of the court and, strikingly, a separate concurring opinion — has become a major flash point in his quest to win a seat on the Supreme Court.

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To: rdl6989
I agree, he could be another Souter.

Souter never had the slightest history of being a conservative and was only chosen because he was a long time friend of he Bush family and "acceptable" to democrats and RINO Republicans. He was picked as a consensus candidate because GHW Bush didn't want another contentious Bork nomination like Reagan had. Bush never for a minute thought Souter was a Scalia conservative, he kind of hoped he Souter would be a O'Connor/Kennedy moderate, but even that turned out to be optimistic.

Gorsuch, on the other hand, is considered by every legal scholar as a model of conservative legal thought. Yes, you can cherry pick a couple rulings (out of hundreds) where he might appear more moderate. But even Scalia himself thought highly of Gorsuch. At the absolute worst Gorsuch might end up more like a Roberts, but not Souter.

21 posted on 03/22/2017 7:47:10 AM PDT by apillar
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To: G Larry
He backed the law in his ruling, but criticized it in his writing.

Exactly. Bad law is still the law, until it is not.

22 posted on 03/22/2017 7:52:47 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: kabar

“I have an uneasy feeling about Gorsuch. He could become another O’Connor or Kennedy or Souter.”

You’re not the only one.


23 posted on 03/22/2017 8:09:45 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: TexasGator
He follows the law and the constitution.

They all say that, even Ginsburg.

24 posted on 03/22/2017 8:10:29 AM PDT by kabar
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To: All

Here it goes again....

Gorsuch is not a conservative...

Trump hasn’t fired enough yet...

The wall isn’t up yet...

The illegals are still here...

Trump doesn’t know what to do....

Oh woe is us...Woe is us....


25 posted on 03/22/2017 8:10:33 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: rdl6989

He was right to defer to the Supreme Court. He was also right to note the need for the Supreme Court to re-examine the Chevron ruling, which he believed forced his deference. He did not interpret the federal law, but deferred to the executive branch, and complained that he had to.

I just don’t like that he’s starting to come off insincere. For now, it’s towards the Democrats. But if it weren’t for Prof. Robert George’s defense of him, I’d be very wary of a Judge Souter. And I’m wary of relying on another, no matter how great that other is.


26 posted on 03/22/2017 8:14:36 AM PDT by dangus
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To: JBW1949

Pearls...WHERE ARE MY PEARLS?


27 posted on 03/22/2017 8:18:30 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Ain’t it the truth???LOL


28 posted on 03/22/2017 8:19:41 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: kabar

Reread my post.


29 posted on 03/22/2017 8:24:56 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: moehoward

I feel uneasy about Gorsuch also. Something about him doesn’t ring true to me.


30 posted on 03/22/2017 8:38:54 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: PrairieLady2

Laura Ingraham yesterday pointed to several more Conservative leaning Judges who may be in consideration next time around. We’ll see. Gorsuch will certainly have time to rule on a few cases before there’s another seat to fill.


31 posted on 03/22/2017 8:42:47 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: TexasGator

I reread it. What am I missing? Sarcasm?


32 posted on 03/22/2017 8:45:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

[[I have an uneasy feeling about Gorsuch.]]

Me too- Yesterday he said that gay marriage is “Absolutely Settled Law” (Even though no cases have come up challenging it in the SC) while calling roe vs wade simply ‘settled law’ because ‘it has been challenged over and over and is now settled law’

Scalia Replacement? Scalia argued against Gay Marriage- Stating that centuries of traditional marriage all around the world and custom should Have weighing when deciding the case- (He of course put it much more betterer than I- but that was kinda the crux of his argument/dissent)

What is Gorsuch’s stand on climate change? Is he in favor of that too?


33 posted on 03/22/2017 9:05:35 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: moehoward
>> Laura Ingraham yesterday pointed to several more Conservative leaning Judges who may be in consideration next time around. We’ll see. Gorsuch will certainly have time to rule on a few cases before there’s another seat to fill. <<

...and in the meantime, if Gorsuch turns out to be a Sandra Day O'Connor type judge, it will move the Supreme Court significantly to the left since he's replacing Scalia. He will then have a lifetime tenure on the court and we'll be stuck with him for decades, and unable to undo the damage.

Amazingly, a bunch of FReepers want to rubber stamp this guy ASAP and say the only downside to his nomination is that he "hasn't been confirmed yet".

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

34 posted on 03/22/2017 9:09:46 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: apillar
>> At the absolute worst Gorsuch might end up more like a Roberts, but not Souter. <<

Robert's background was significantly more conservative than Gorsuch. Roberts was a devout traditional Catholic who clerked for Rehnquist and whose wife was a member of Feminists for Life. Gorsuch attends the most liberal Episcopalian church in Boulder (with a rabid left-wing activist female "priest" as the pastor), clerked for Kennedy, and made it trendy to use female pronounces like "she" and "her" to refer to men who "feel" female.

35 posted on 03/22/2017 9:15:03 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: DouglasKC

CFR member


36 posted on 03/22/2017 9:16:17 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: kabar; Impy
>> I was disturbed by Gorsuch's use of the term "undocumented immigrant" and his apology for using the word "alien" and quickly correcting himself to replace it with immigrant. The legal term is unauthorized alien.

The Reps have a history of nominating "conservative" justices only to see them become liberals. I have an uneasy feeling about Gorsuch. <<

Tsk, tsk. Shame on you for actually examining the judge's record and statements and looking at it objectively. A bunch of FReepers have informed us that the ONLY downside to the nomination is he "hasn't been confirmed yet" and the Senate Republicans should blindly trust the nomination and rubber stamp him to a lifetime tenure on the nation's highest court immediately.

You mean that strategy didn't magically produce awesome results when GOP Presidents appointed so-called "strict constuctionists" like Warren Burger, Harry Blackmun, John Paul Stevens, Sandra Day O'Connor, David Souter, and John Roberts?

I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

37 posted on 03/22/2017 9:25:44 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: rdl6989
The issue in the case referred to has nothing to do with liking--or accepting--the illegal immigrant. The issue goes to the extent to which a bureau of the Government can alter a statutory right, and the Judge's opinion is basically the Conservative one.

I do not suggest that I understand what the Judge had to say on the oxymoron of same-sex marriage. I did not hear the comment, or know how he justified it, if he went that far. Hopefully, if a relevant case comes before the Court, he will listen to the arguments, and change his opinion--if it has been correctly reported.

38 posted on 03/22/2017 9:29:21 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: BillyBoy

[[Gorsuch attends the most liberal Episcopalian church in Boulder (with a rabid left-wing activist female “priest” as the pastor), clerked for Kennedy, and made it trendy to use female pronounces like “she” and “her” to refer to men who “feel” female.]]

Exactly- He apparently won’t use the words ‘illegal alien’ either- evidently preferring to call them ‘immigrants’


39 posted on 03/22/2017 10:07:41 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: kenmcg; kabar

“I have an uneasy feeling about Gorsuch...”

Relax. Just another soundbite.
I do believe it’s working. Goooood!
That’ll keep you’re mind where we want it to go,
We’re the media and we run this show...

There is no truth it’s all illusion
The things we program you to think
You try to score but we’ve moved the goalposts
You vote but we dispute the results

When I was a child I had a feeling
The world seemed bright and just and fair
Now I know it’s all a mockery
The child is grown the dream is gone...

And I
Have become
Painfully aware


40 posted on 03/22/2017 10:45:07 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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