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The Democrats are actively accusing the Russians of hacking, spying and disrupting our elections

Posted on 03/20/2017 12:23:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The democrats are doing a full court press in trying to prove Russia influenced our elections. Ok, if true, why then was Russia so successful in hacking, spying and actively disrupting our democratic processes under President Obama?

Complete intelligence breakdown or what?

Obama's criminal negligence and incompetence?

Obama/Hillary complicity?

Obama sound asleep at the switch?

Or what?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; Russia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: cia; elections; fbi; hacking; hillary; intelligence; jimrob; nsa; obama; russia; russiaprobe; spying; trumprussia
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes, I do want the swam to be drained. But I don’t see him in any more danger than any other occupant of the WH. He’s put some people from the swamp (not saying their bad people, but they know the lay of the land and what is to much too soon)that should keep that part of the deep state at bay. I think he’s just as vulnerable from a kook as those before him.


101 posted on 03/20/2017 2:47:55 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: AmusedBystander
If a reporter had done that, they would have won a Pulitzer

Not these days. If a reporter had done that it would have been a career ending move, possibly a life ending move when it came to light.

102 posted on 03/20/2017 2:57:41 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: joesbucks

Ok, that is my question. If the Russians successfully spied, hacked and influenced our elections to the point that they actually defeated Obama’s third term (as they are claiming), wouldn’t that mean we had a total breakdown in every single one of our “17 intelligence agencies”? Wouldn’t such a massive breakdown in national security endanger our “democracy” and place our nation’s chances of survival in severe peril and wouldn’t such failures reflect badly on the administration in power?

By the way, I brought up Benghazi and Hillary’s server as obvious examples of the Obama/Hillary cavalier attitude toward, criminal disregard for and gross negligence in security matters.


103 posted on 03/20/2017 3:06:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Vendome
Phishing is a hack

It is stupidity on the idiot that responds to it. A hack is when you go into the targets computer and steal info without his knowledge nor assistance in the hack.

Podesta was just plain stupid. Please send me your bank account numbers, social security numbers etc. and if I were a bad person I could empty your accounts. This is not a hack but merely malignant stupidlity by the person that would give such information. Podesta was an idiot.

104 posted on 03/20/2017 3:07:55 PM PDT by cpdiii
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To: Jim Robinson

Progressive patterns of behavior prove they are guilty of whatever they accuse others of doing. We know Obama and Clinton were making deals with the Russians. The astounding (for dems) loss to Trump can not be explained by the illegal voting (more than 10 million ineligible voters)nor by the overwhelming resources poured into the Clinton campaign by governments and wealthy contributors all over the world. Russia played a major role in funding and supporting the Clinton campaign. They had no reason to believe they could lose.
The progressive criminal cabal is the greatest threat to world peace and our constitutional government. It is what must be drained. Accomplishing this feat will require years of building a RICO case and, ultimately, destroying the global progressive movement. This is war and we are smack dab in the middle of it.


105 posted on 03/20/2017 3:14:33 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

You are correct.


106 posted on 03/20/2017 3:17:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: McGavin999

It does seem listening to the intel community, and the Dems,and half of the GOP is that they all want war with Russia, and they are ignoring all of our other enemies.


107 posted on 03/20/2017 3:23:25 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: cpdiii

Good thing I Stepped away from your response for a few minutes but, phishing is a form of hacking.

Hacking isn’t merely “Intrusion” by force, electronically.

I’ll use wiki for my response because giving a technical explanation might be too complicated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing

Give it a quick read.


108 posted on 03/20/2017 3:34:43 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Jim Robinson

What’s intriguing and a bit gross is that Russia has been made to be to the only boogeyman in all this.

There were and are plenty of state actors who pulled the same thing and left out in all this are some of our biggest competitors:

China
India
Pakistan
Germany
France
Brazil
Chechnya.

All these states are very active and may have a grater capacity to intrude on our electronics, particularly China, who has more resources dedicated to this than all the others combined.

But, little difficult to actively and politically attack them all, leaving them as “mere observers” in all this and somehow “innocent” by ommision of identifying them.


109 posted on 03/20/2017 3:42:33 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Jim Robinson

It is a combination of Democrapt disinformation and the Goebbles theory of the ‘big lie.’ They will keep telling the ‘Russian lie’ until enough folks think it is true.


110 posted on 03/20/2017 4:49:04 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry; Jim Robinson
Supposedly they hacked DNC and Podesta e mail accounts and gave them to Wikileaks.

Julian Assange denies it and implies that murdered DNC staffer, Seth Rich may have been involved.

The emails showed, truthfully, that the DNC fixed the Dem primary in favor of hillary leading to Blabbermouth Schultz's resignation.

Widespread collusion of the dems and the msm.

DNC funding and fomenting violence at Trump rallies.

And lots of other illegal and unethical stuff.

All of this truth was, apparently, disadvantageous to Hillary and unfairly allowed voters to make an informed choice outside of the DNC/MSM/DEEP STATE message bubble.

We'll leave, for another time, the fact that the soetoro/soros/hillary cabal was deeply involved in fomenting a coup against the democratically elected president of Ukraine, directly influenced elections in Israel, Egypt, Russia and other countries, by funding and supporting the MB, Isis and AQ overthrew Qaddafi and attempted the same in Syria.

111 posted on 03/20/2017 7:19:58 PM PDT by Eagles6 (My weapons are lubricated by liberal tears.)
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To: Jim Robinson
First, none of us can prove the amount of impact the Wiki information had. It could have been a lot. It could have been minimal.

The fact remains, an enemy of our State or their agents appears to have or actually did hack into private email and servers and released embarrassing information. Yes it happened on Obama's watch.

My only point is should it happen again in 2018 or 2020 under Trump's watch, he should be held to the same standard that you're wanting to hold Obama under. And frankly that goes not only to election hacks, but any hack whether it be Free Republic, a bank, a commercial store or simply a private email.

112 posted on 03/21/2017 8:54:23 AM PDT by joesbucks
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