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When Obama Compared Slaves to Immigrants, He Got Applause; Carson Gets Called 'Uncle Tom'
Townhall.com ^ | March 16, 2017 | Larry Elder

Posted on 03/16/2017 7:20:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

Dr. Ben Carson, in a speech before employees of Housing and Urban Development, the department he now runs, likened slaves to "immigrants": "That's what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder, for less. But they, too, had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land."

Carson got hammered.

Late-night comic Trevor Noah said: "It makes them sound like they work at Wal-Mart. ... Calling slaves 'immigrants' is like saying: 'It's not kidnapping. That person just got a free vacation in a basement.' ... Slaves weren't immigrants. Because an immigrant has choice. They choose the country they're going to because they hope it will bring them a better life. Saying that slaves are just another group of immigrants erases how black people were uniquely oppressed in America. It helps justify blaming African-Americans for their hardships."

Actor Samuel L. Jackson tweeted: "OK!! Ben Carson ... I can't! Immigrants? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAF---- PLEASE!!! #d---headedtom."

Actress Whoopi Goldberg said: "Were the slaves really thinking about the American dream? No, because they were thinking, 'What the hell just happened?!' You know, when people immigrate, they come with the idea that they're going someplace for a better life. ... It's voluntary. ... How does he miss what slavery is?! How does he miss that no slave came to this country willingly? ... Ben, 'Roots.' Watch 'Roots.'"

TV personality Star Jones tweeted: "No way in the world he is that friggin ignorant." Using the pile-of-excrement emoji, she called the renowned neurosurgeon "(expletive) for brains." She ended the tweet: "#UncleTom thy name is #BenCarson."

Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., insists that Carson's "slave equals immigrant" perspective means he is unqualified to lead HUD because Carson "doesn't know how urgent it is to confront racism" in housing: "It's disturbing to me, and it should be to every American, not just black Americans. ... For him, the HUD secretary, to have a stunning misunderstanding of history like that, is really, really striking. ... And so for the HUD secretary not to get that means that he doesn't know how urgent it is to confront racism and discrimination in housing, which is a very scary thing for the HUD secretary to not understand."

Following the uproar, Carson posted this clarification on Facebook: "The slave narrative and immigrant narrative are two entirely different experiences. ... The two experiences should never be intertwined, nor forgotten, as we demand the necessary progress towards an America that's inclusive and provides access to equal opportunity for all."

One slight problem.

The "insensitive" and "demeaning" slave-equals-immigrant argument was made on a number of occasions by President Barack Obama: "It wasn't always easy for new immigrants," Obama said at a 2015 naturalization ceremony for new citizens. "Certainly it wasn't easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily, and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. There was discrimination and hardship and poverty. But, like you, they no doubt found inspiration in all those who had come before them. And they were able to muster faith that, here in America, they might build a better life and give their children something more."

Even "Daily Show" host Noah admitted, "President Obama said something similar in 2015." But, said Noah, "You could tell before (Obama) said that part he was thinking, 'Damn, my speechwriter f---ed up.'"

In fact, according to the Federalist, Obama likened slaves to immigrants on 11 different occasions. "Whether our ancestors landed on Ellis Island," said Obama, "or came here on a slave ship or crossed the Rio Grande, we are all connected to one another. We rise and fall together."

Goldberg, Noah, Jackson and Ellison were obviously occupied the 11 times Obama showed he "doesn't know how urgent it is to confront racism."

Why the silence over Obama's many slave-equals-immigrant comments versus the desk pounding by the same critics when Carson says the same thing? Carson represents an existential threat to the left. He is deadly to their cause -- a black man, raised in poverty by a hardworking, welfare-abstaining single mom who taught her children to embrace hard work and education. The left believes that blacks are perpetual victims of slavery, Jim Crow and racism. It is vital for the existence of the Democratic Party to convince blacks to vote like victims in need of protection from the racist, sexist retrogrades known as Republicans. So black conservatives like Carson, who argues that welfare creates dependency, who demands choice in K-12 education and who believes hard work wins, must be attacked, marginalized and dismissed as "against their own people."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: barackhussein0bama; drbencarson; hypocrisy; worstpresidentever

1 posted on 03/16/2017 7:20:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Obama could have drowned kittens, shot puppies and slaughtered babies in a Satanic ritual and he would have been applauded. ... Raucously applauded.


2 posted on 03/16/2017 7:24:51 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Kaslin

No one ought to doubt President Trump’s accurate assessment that the Democrat media is an “enemy of the people.”


3 posted on 03/16/2017 7:25:05 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Kaslin
Notice how Trevor Noah instinctively tries to provide cover for ex-presidential seal Barky by blaming his speechwriter.

Blissfully unaware that he made the comparison eleven times.

You'd think by the eigth or ninth time, he'd've thunk to himself, "(What? This line again? I'm not saying that)".

4 posted on 03/16/2017 7:38:18 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

Bias and prejudice are powerful interpreters. The interpretations are ugliest when those who submit fully to their prejudice and bias don’t even see or acknowledge them within themselves.


5 posted on 03/16/2017 7:39:40 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It's Morning in America)
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To: Kaslin

Bttt.

5.56mm


6 posted on 03/16/2017 7:41:27 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Kaslin

“barack!”...Sounds like a loud fart coming off of the seat of a metal folding chair.


7 posted on 03/16/2017 7:51:47 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Kaslin

Regarding what liberals say ask yourself what you would do if a cur growled at you as you passed by it - ignore it or drop down on hands and knees and growl back.

IMHO what a liberal says or does means no more than a cur’s growl.


8 posted on 03/16/2017 7:54:24 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Kaslin

Regarding what liberals say ask yourself what you would do if a cur growled at you as you passed by it - ignore it or drop down on hands and knees and growl back.

IMHO what a liberal says or does means no more than a cur’s growl.


9 posted on 03/16/2017 7:54:53 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Kaslin; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

well Dr Carson has never called illegal aliens “immigrants” so what’s the problem ???


10 posted on 03/16/2017 8:03:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin
Here was Leonard Pitts response when I asked him about this

I wasn’t aware when I wrote the column that President Obama once said something similar to what Carson said, but that changes absolutely nothing. You will find no moral relativism here. It is a stupid and offensive thing to say, no matter who says it and Obama, like Carson, should have known better. Slaves were not immigrants, period.

LP

11 posted on 03/16/2017 8:08:16 AM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Kaslin

if you’re a resident of “Realville”, you’ve got to know that this will never stop.

The “Brass Ring” on this liberal Merry-go-round is reserved for the news faker who takes Trump down, from the top rated, to those unknowns, like Rachel Maddow.

They are more obsessed with that than the tag-team of McCain and Graham are with Russia, and seeking another war...somewhere... anywhere.

So far, their every “got’cha” has exploded like an overcharged Samsung cellphone battery, at 30,000 feet.

We, in Realville, expect their feeding frenzy, as Trump chums the water for them. It reminds me of the “unstoppable force meeting the immovable object”, a precarious situation, at best.


12 posted on 03/16/2017 8:08:59 AM PDT by FrankR (FULL REPEAL, OR NO DEAL)
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To: mountn man

satan is not able to hide behind the curtain in situations like this. So obvious to see the right vs wrong in our lost world.


13 posted on 03/16/2017 8:19:27 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England
satan is not able to hide behind the curtain in situations like this. So obvious to see the right vs wrong in our lost world.

This election has really exposed the two sides.

I am in no way disillusioned into believing the right side is perfect.

But the left has openly and firmly embraced Satan.

As a society, we have gone way past just differing opinions.

14 posted on 03/16/2017 8:42:39 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Religion and Politics
Bias and prejudice are powerful interpreters. The interpretations are ugliest when those who submit fully to their prejudice and bias don’t even see or acknowledge them within themselves.

You speak truth.

I see it so much with people on the left.

I KNOW and admit I'm biased. But I reflect on everything and seek THE TRUTH about things. The real truth, not what agrees with my view point.

I have, more than one time, researched things, to prove my point and have had to modify my views, because the facts showed something different than what I "knew" or assumed.

A number of years ago, I got into a discussion/argument with a friend.
It got rather heated.
I presented facts.
I built my case.
In the end, my friend stuck with his view, despite my facts and proof.
I said I knew what I knew, BECAUSE I looked up all the facts.
I asked him how he knew what he knew?
His answer:

"Because I know."

That's logic you can't argue with.

It's quite similar to discussing things with union members.
They regurgitate what they've been taught, but have ABSOLUTELY ZERO thought process behind it.

15 posted on 03/16/2017 8:58:41 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Kaslin
I truly believe it takes a special kind of evil to want to stifle the voice of another. That's just how totalitarian The Left (and their acolytes) have become with their blind ignorance and venal prejudices.

Ben Carson is a National Treasure, and these filth don't deserve him.

16 posted on 03/16/2017 10:44:33 AM PDT by Gargantua ("AM Still Not Tired Of Winning---beeyotch!" ;^)
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To: Kaslin
When Obama Compared Slaves to Immigrants, He Got Applause; Carson Gets Called 'Uncle Tom'

Some can tell 'em. Some can't.

17 posted on 03/16/2017 6:04:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

After spending the morning being processed, Fred is taken to the huge mess hall for lunch.

He finds a seat at a table full of inmates who look like they have been behind bars for years.

Suddenly, an inmate stands in the middle of the room and yells, “41!” As he sits down, the room erupts in laughter.

Then another prisoner stands and yells, “123!” Again, there is laughter throughout the room.

Puzzled, Fred asks the inmate sitting next to him what’s going on. “Well,” the older inmate says, “Most of us have been here so long that we have heard all the jokes. So we just number them and use the number.”

Fred says, “I love to tell jokes! Give me one.”

“Okay,” says the older inmate. “Everybody loves old 72. It always gets a big laugh”

So Fred stands up, waits for the laughter to die down from the last joke, and yells, “72!”

There is nothing but silence as hundreds of inmates just turn and stare at him.

Fred sits down and looks at the inmate who gave him the number. “What happened?” he asks.

The older man shrugs and says, “Some people just can’t tell a joke.”


18 posted on 03/16/2017 6:05:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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