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More Evidence Surfaces – NSA Director Mike Rogers Did Not Aid Obama’s Surveillance Scheme
The Conservative Tree House ^ | March 14, 2017 | sundance

Posted on 03/14/2017 8:39:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Every time I see an interview discussing 2016 surveillance of the Trump Campaign and candidate Donald Trump I keep going back to that November 17th, 2016, Trump Tower visit by NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.

No-one in the Obama chain-of-command knew Director Rogers was going to meet with President-Elect Trump; Rogers did it entirely on his own impetus, and James Clapper was furious in the aftermath.

Additionally, Admiral Mike Rogers is still running the NSA. President Trump has made no effort to replace him.

“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA. He didn’t use the CIA. He didn’t use the FBI, and he didn’t use Department of Justice. He used GCHQ. What the heck is GCHQ? That’s the initials for the British spying agency. They have 24/7 access to the NSA database. So by simply having two people go to them saying, ‘President Obama needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate Trump, conversations involving president-elect Trump,’ he’s able to get it, and there’s no American fingerprints on this.”
~ Judge Andrew Napolitano

If what Napolitano’s sources are saying is true, then it’s even more confirmation of our hunch in an earlier timeline.  NSA Director Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in, or give aid in relationship to, the surveillance scheme.  Consequently, the Obama White House worked around Rogers with another source, British Government Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ), for the same information.

In 2013 Edward Snowden released information the UK GCHQ was being party funded by the U.S. NSA to the tune of over £100 million:

[…]  The funding underlines the closeness of the relationship between GCHQ and its US equivalent, the National Security Agency. But it will raise fears about the hold Washington has over the UK’s biggest and most important intelligence agency, and whether Britain’s dependency on the NSA has become too great. (link)

January 23rd, 2017, three days after President Trump’s inauguration, the head of the U.K. General Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) unexpectedly resigns:

Robert Hannigan, the director of GCHQ, has resigned from his job as head of one of the three Government intelligence agencies after just two years.

GCHQ would only say that Mr Hannigan had left his post for “personal reasons” and that he was not sacked or subject to disciplinary proceedings.  (link)

[Previously] In hindsight, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers may have notified Team Trump of Obama’s Intelligence Community (James Clapper and John Brennan) involvement or engagement in surveillance activity.

As you look at the dates below, it’s important to note that NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers would be keenly aware of both the June FISA request – Denied, and the October request – Granted.  Pay specific attention to the October request. “October”!.

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June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons.

Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

♦ On Tuesday November 8th, 2016 the election was held.  Results announced Wednesday November 9th, 2016.

NSA Director Rogers participates in session at Intelligence and National Security Summit in Washington♦ On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.

♦ On Friday November 18th The Washington Post reported on a recommendation in “October” that Mike Rogers be removed from his NSA position:

The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.

The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

[…]  In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters. (link)

Remember, historically The Washington Post is the preferred outlet for the CIA and Intelligence Community within Deep State to dump their “leaks” and stories.  [The State Department “leaks” to CNN for the same purposes.]

♦ On Saturday November 19th Reuters reported on the WaPo Story and additional pressure by Defense Secretary Ash Carter and DNI James Clapper to fire Mike Rogers.

[…]  The Washington Post reported that a decision by Rogers to travel to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday without notifying superiors caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, but the recommendation to remove him predated his visit.  (link)

If you just look at the timeline of activity a picture emerges:

  1. The Intelligence Community -at the direction of President Obama- made a request to a FISA court for the NSA to spy on Donald Trump in June 2016.  It was denied.
  2. In October the Intelligence Community (NSA) -at the direction of President Obama- made a second request to the FISA court for the NSA to spy on activity around Donald Trump.  It was approved.
  3. At around the same time (October), as the second request, (Def Sec) Ash Carter and (DNI) James Clapper tell President Obama to dump NSA Director Mike Rogers.
  4. A week after the election, Director Mike Rogers makes a trip to Trump Tower without telling his superior, James Clapper….
  5. …Which immediately brings about new calls (November media leaks to WaPo) for President Obama to dump Admiral Mike Rogers.

Occam’s Razor.  NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers didn’t want to participate in the spying scheme (Clapper, Brennan, Etc.), which was the baseline for President Obama’s post presidency efforts to undermine Donald Trump and keep Trump from digging into the Obama labyrinth underlying his remaining loyalists.  After the October spying or surveillance operation went into effect, Rogers unknown loyalty was a risk to the Obama objective.  10 Days after the election Rogers travels to President-Elect Trump without notifying those who were involved in the intel scheme.

Did NSA Director Mike Rogers wait for a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) to be set up in Trump Tower, and then notify the President-elect he was being monitored by a group representing President Obama’s interests?

….Seems likely.



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MY. Breath taking.

Obama used England's GCHQ to access data on Trump before the November election, so there would be NO paper trail.

There is a video of the Judge at the Link.

1 posted on 03/14/2017 8:39:46 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

These people are insane, unrelenting and ruthless.

You’d think hitlery would be Thrilled that Trump was pondering letting her slide.

Her, obama and a whole bunch more are Begging Trump do something about it.

I was for her just going away after the election.

I now know that could never be the reality.

Because I don’t need limitless power and money gained by any means to be happy.

Well, limitless money... :)


2 posted on 03/14/2017 8:46:47 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Texas Fossil

Fascinating.


3 posted on 03/14/2017 8:48:35 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Texas Fossil

It would be nice to see President TRUMP surface, blow this up and name names and if necessary commence the hangings.


4 posted on 03/14/2017 8:54:48 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: reasonisfaith
Fascinating.

Actually CRIMINAL

What Obama did was against the law. He used British resources to break the law, but Hussein is the one who is guilty.

The RATS do NOT think Trump has the balls to have them arrested. The Att General will not be stopped by Donald Trump when he gets a courtesy call from the AG.

5 posted on 03/14/2017 8:59:38 PM PDT by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama did)
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To: samadams2000

AMEN and AMEN!!!


6 posted on 03/14/2017 9:00:31 PM PDT by sport
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To: Texas Fossil

I wouldn't buy a used car from these people. All of them know damn well what happened. Trump does too. They also know damn well this aint over.☺

7 posted on 03/14/2017 9:01:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

correcto

It isn’t over till the fat lady sings.

There are charges and a trial proceeding that.


8 posted on 03/14/2017 9:04:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

“It couldn’t possibly be true, because that is not how our system works,” Pelosi said during a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington.

“We do not investigate, through a FISA court, Americans — here or abroad.”

Well, Nancy how about this:

MUSCULAR (surveillance program)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
MUSCULAR (DS-200B), located in the United Kingdom,[1] is the name of a surveillance programme jointly operated by Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) that was revealed by documents which were released by Edward Snowden and interviews with knowledgeable officials.[2] GCHQ is the primary operator of the program.[1]GCHQ and the National Security Agency have secretly broken into the main communications links that connect the data centers of Yahoo! and Google.[3]Substantive information about the program was made public at the end of October 2013.
Contents

1 Overview
2 Operational details
3 Reactions and countermeasures
4 Gallery
5 See also
6 References
7 External links

Overview

The programme is jointly run by:
– Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) (United Kingdom)
– U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)
MUSCULAR is one of at least four other similar programs that rely on a trusted 2nd party, programs which together are known as WINDSTOP. In a 30-day period from December 2012 to January 2013, MUSCULAR was responsible for collecting 181 million records. It was however dwarfed by another WINDSTOP program known (insofar) only by its code DS-300 and codename INCENSER, which collected over 14 billion records in the same period.[4]

Operational details

According to the leaked document the NSA’s acquisitions directorate sends millions of records every day from internal Yahoo! and Google networks to data warehouses at the agency’s headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland. The programme operates via an access point known as DS-200B, which is outside the United States, and it relies on an unnamed telecommunications operator to provide secret access for the NSA and the GCHQ.[3]

According to the Washington Post, the MUSCULAR program collects more than twice as many data points (“selectors” in NSA jargon) compared to the better known PRISM.[2] Unlike PRISM, the MUSCULAR program requires no (FISA or other type of) warrants.

Because of the huge amount of data involved, MUSCULAR has presented a special challenge to NSA’s Special Source Operations. For example, when Yahoo! decided to migrate a large amount of mailboxes between its data centers, the NSA’s PINWALE database (their primary analytical database for the Internet) was quickly overwhelmed with the data coming from MUSCULAR.[5]

Closely related programmes are called INCENSER and TURMOIL. TURMOIL, belonging to the NSA, is a system for processing the data collected from MUSCULAR.[1]

According to a post-it style note from the presentation, the exploitation relied on the fact that (at the time at least) data was transmitted unencrypted inside Google’s private cloud, with “Google Front End Servers” stripping and respectively adding back SSL from/to external connections. According to the Washington Post: “Two engineers with close ties to Google exploded in profanity when they saw the drawing.” After the information about MUSCULAR was published by the press, Google announced that it was working on deploying encrypted communication between its datacenters.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSCULAR_(surveillance_program)


9 posted on 03/14/2017 9:04:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spygate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: politicianslie

What a wild week.

Remember what Hillary said: If they win we’ll be hanging from light poles (paraphrase)


10 posted on 03/14/2017 9:07:16 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Beyond criminal. Obama & Co. are actively engeged in a conspiracy to overthrow the duly elected U.S. government. Treason!


11 posted on 03/14/2017 9:08:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Texas Fossil
Drip, drip, drip.

Little by little, this story is coming out and being put together. Nice to see folks like CTH taking an active part in this. Refreshing change from ABCNBCCNN, et al.

nobama, Killary and their minions goons are in this up to their eyeballs. Hopefully there will finally be some justice rendered.

12 posted on 03/14/2017 9:09:57 PM PDT by upchuck (U have not lived today until u have done something for someone who can never repay u ~ John Bunyan)
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To: Texas Fossil

Well if it were Hillary ordering all of this Rogers would be dead by now.


13 posted on 03/14/2017 9:11:03 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: politicianslie

I bet Hussein still has tentacles in the NSA and Cia and still gets whatever information out of them that he wants. I worry about the CIA going to “active measures.” Hussein means to finish his Revolution.


14 posted on 03/14/2017 9:19:19 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Texas Fossil
Preceding.
15 posted on 03/14/2017 9:20:25 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

thanks


16 posted on 03/14/2017 9:23:13 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: upchuck
CTH has someone inside the labyrinth.

Somewhere near foggy bottom or Ft. Meade.

17 posted on 03/14/2017 9:25:38 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil



18 posted on 03/14/2017 9:26:04 PM PDT by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY! JOIN Club 300!)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Remember what Hillary said: If they win we’ll be hanging from light poles”

Close, but she was a bit more descript and is quoted as SCREAMING: “If that f-—ing bastard wins, we’ll all hang from nooses!”

As well they should. Though, I would grant her the option of firing squad.

What people fail to realize is that the Democrats have used the government and its apparatus, as their own tools for rewarding, punishing, investigating, limiting, persecuting whomever they see fit.

That ability stopped in January and they are unable to compete or cope with the loss of this ability.

Trump needs to make them monuments of political abuse for all time. They need to be in the history books as the abusers of freedom loving people and what we will and will not tolerate.

Valerie Jarrett moved into Obama’s house for a reason, she knows EVERYTHING, and they can’t have her out of arm’s reach for a minute.


19 posted on 03/14/2017 9:27:57 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Occam’s Razor – Did NSA Admiral Mike Rogers Warn Trump On November 17th, 2016?…

Posted on March 3, 2017 by sundance

On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.

On Friday November 18th The Washington Post reported on a recommendation in “October” that Mike Rogers be removed from his NSA position:

The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.

The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters.

Remember, historically The Washington Post is the preferred outlet for the CIA and Intelligence Community within Deep State to dump their “leaks” and stories. The State Department “leaks” to CNN for the same purposes.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/occams-razor-did-nsa-admiral-mike-rogers-warn-trump-on-november-17th-2016/


20 posted on 03/14/2017 9:29:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spygate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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