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This is the first article that got this story rolling (back in November, one day before the election)
1 posted on 03/06/2017 12:45:44 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

How dare an international business mogul do business in Russia.


2 posted on 03/06/2017 12:50:32 PM PST by AU72
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I guess this could be milked for months if not years of intrigue.

But I think the best approach (and maybe even Trump will eventually do something like that) will be just to laugh at them and say yeah, we were talking with Russia, and look at the results... we’re now good friends and Russia is off of its conquest-for-self-esteem kick... now if you Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans want to make a conspiracy theory out of that then go right ahead and knock yourselves out, but I think you’ll just look silly.


3 posted on 03/06/2017 12:51:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: hoosiermama; onyx; Jane Long; V K Lee; RitaOK; Black Agnes; PennsylvaniaMom; Fai Mao; Fiddlstix; ...

Ping.

There are only 2 articles cited as sources for the wiretapping, this one and the one by the BBC.


4 posted on 03/06/2017 12:51:14 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux; LS
So, Again, what was new over the weekend that Trump discovered when this was written back in November? Was Trump first alerted to this over the weekend?

Very odd.

Nevertheless, this is the absolute best election ever!

5 posted on 03/06/2017 12:52:26 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’ll repeat what was posted yesterday here:

1. Earlier, it was reported the FISA warrant request described a ***possible*** connection to a Russian Bank.

2. All FISA warrant requests must have an international foreign party. Otherwise, a warrant request must go through US Courts or an international court.

3. The report from Gateway Pundit, an outfit whose products I generally subscribe to, writes in a manner that there is no question that a server in Trump Tower “was connected to” a Russian Bank.

4. Now how does anyone know what was in the FISA warrant request?

5. Trump Tower Manhattan is a big place zoned for mixed use, 68 stories, 10 stories for the base atrium as part of 26 stories for offices and stores, 39 stories for residences comprising 270 condominiums and then the Trump Organization and the personal Penthouse of Donald Trump occupying the top 3 floors. All the floor heights are taller than comparable building heights so the total height of the building is more than 68 typical stories.

5. The largest Chinese government-controlled bank ‘The Industrial & Commercial Bank of China Ltd.’ operates in the Trump Tower. It is highly probable, as in with probability one, that this bank has a server tied to a Russian bank and with many many other banks around the world.

6. A FISA warrant request for tapping Trump Tower based on a ‘server linked to a Russian Bank’ would give, in light of one of the largest banks in the world operating inside Trump Tower, carte blanche to launch a giant fishing expedition for monitoring all communications, transactions, correspondence and file packets coming into and going out of the building ASSOCIATED WITH THE BANK IN QUESTION. Communications intercepted from the Trump Campaign and from Donald Trump’s personal residence WOULD BE ILLEGAL unless there were probable cause to believe the Trump Campaign and Donald Trump were involved in the Chinese bank’s communication with a Foreign bank

7. If the FBI/NSA did, in fact, monitor the Trump’s campaign and personal communications, then that is a crime.

8. Gateway Pundit writes:

“The original FISA request which specifically named and broadly targeted Donald Trump was denied, a second request was redrafted months later which narrowed down on equipment in Trump Tower. The second request is said to have been granted, despite the fact that FBI sources did not believe these servers to be of actual national security or possess any illegal ties to Russia.”

NARROWED DOWN TO EQUIPMENT IN TRUMP TOWER.

That would very likely be the Chinese Bank’s servers linked to Russian Banks and other banks which is normal for international banks.

9. If President Trump has evidence of Obama’s FBI listening to his campaign or his personal communications, then he has evidence of a felony committed by the Obama Administration.

10. Fact: if the Trump Administration has evidence of an Obama conspiracy to violate the law, the Obama underlings will likely agree to a plea deal in exchange for testimony leading to Lynch, Jarrett and others at the highest level. If any of Obama’s inner circle turn evidence on Obama, Obama may be the first President in US history to be charged with a felony.

My sense is that President Trump will decide to either prosecute Obama and all his minions. or reach a deal with them in return for enormous, massive political concessions. Either way, the democrats and their progressive socialism era will be brought to an end.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3531464/posts?page=50#50


7 posted on 03/06/2017 12:54:31 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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ping


9 posted on 03/06/2017 12:56:29 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: RoosterRedux

Thanks for posting this.


13 posted on 03/06/2017 1:01:05 PM PST by samtheman (ObamaGate = Watergate Squared)
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It's amazing that President Trump was brilliant enough to win the election with the Seditious Muslim funneling Trump campaign intel DIRECTLY to the campaign of the Felon Pig-In-A-Pantsuit.

The Lord loves a-hangin'.

Or two. Or many...

14 posted on 03/06/2017 1:01:40 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: RoosterRedux

Here ya go

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

BTW this seems to tie into the FR thread this morning about the activities of an “Emily McMullin” to update a registered domain with Trump’s name about 3 days after the October FISA warrant


15 posted on 03/06/2017 1:01:58 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: RoosterRedux

That was an excuse..............


16 posted on 03/06/2017 1:02:40 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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For everyone:

Louise Mensch was a Republican For Hillary back during the campaign.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/12/revealed-conservative-blogger-louis-mensch-working-hillary-campaign/

18 posted on 03/06/2017 1:07:12 PM PST by KC_Lion ("We must put our citizens first. Only then will we Make America Great Again."- Donald Trump)
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To: RoosterRedux

Just wondering: How many other administration’s launched national security investigations oe criminal investigations against the opposing party’s candidate...?


20 posted on 03/06/2017 1:10:02 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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I thought the weasel, Comey, said Trump was wrong and needed to correct his statement.

Hard to believe anyone but Trump.


22 posted on 03/06/2017 1:10:59 PM PST by Trumplican
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I don’t believe that investigating a bank for possibly fraudulent operations would normally be grounds for a FISA court warrant.

Also, “hacking” would not be something that FISA should be approving warrants for. And this from Wikipedia(I know. Sheesh):) Also rare is for FISA warrant requests to be turned down. During the 25 years from 1979 to 2004, 18,742 warrants were granted, while only 4 were rejected


23 posted on 03/06/2017 1:10:59 PM PST by saleman
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Comey lied?


34 posted on 03/06/2017 1:21:01 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is a website quoting unnamed sources from two other publications using unnamed sources.

This could be totally true, or complete BS, and at this point, no one knows.


45 posted on 03/06/2017 1:29:46 PM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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btt


50 posted on 03/06/2017 1:31:39 PM PST by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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Today someone posted this link on Breitbart:

http://goldtrench.pcriot.com/2017/03/06/breaking-ex-cia-operative-and-nevertrumper-evan-mcmullin-set-up-wire-tapping-website-trump-email-com-to-spy-on-the-then-republican-nominee-donald-trump-nowpresident/

It purports to show that the alleged Trump campaign communication with a Russian bank or banks was a false website, i.e., a defunct Trump website, that was activated by anti-Trump people to discredit him.


52 posted on 03/06/2017 1:36:36 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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From what I read today

The server in this case was a marketing company server with Trump hotel contract

This was sending spam emails from domain the marketing company created. (It was not even a trump.server or domain)...

The so call suspicious traffic was alfa bank doing dns looksup on the spam

..im reading the server was not at Trump tower but in a Phili data center hosting site...

It sound like it just some VMware image/cloud Server spun up in data center for marking spam...and would be all open ip traffic easy to traceroute, sniff and dismiss in about two seconds

So the question is what were they looking at vs what they got the warrant on

At very least secret traffic is going to be encrypted and the Trump and Russian server talk via vpn or some tor / onion router

So did the claim for the warrant some dns queries from a Russian computer to a marketing server for Trump in a Philly Data Center was some nefarious traffic and then use it to go on a fishing expedition?

59 posted on 03/06/2017 1:41:31 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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"....evidence was presented of a server,"

How did they ACQUIRE this "evidence"???????

Did they have a warrant to spy domestically?????

71 posted on 03/06/2017 2:15:52 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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