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4th Circuit: ‘Assault Weapons’ Can Be Banned for Resembling Military Guns
breitbart.com ^ | 2/27/2017 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 02/27/2017 7:30:33 AM PST by rktman

It is interesting to note that the 4th Circuit’s ruling comes in the wake of a “white paper” in which ATF Associate Deputy Director Ronald Turk argued against ongoing importation bans on “assault weapons.” Turk argued on the grounds that such weapons are increasingly popular for sport shooting and are actually “standard for hunting activities.” The Washington Post published the paper in which Turk said continued opposition to the weapons is based on an “almost 20-year-old study.”

But the 4th Circuit described the sporting and hunting rifles as “exceptionally lethal weapons of war.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; 4thcircuit; banglist; fakecourts; fakejudges; guncontrol
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'Moron' the subject. "“exceptionally lethal weapons of war.”" Therein lies one of the many problems. If we could convince the 4th circus that these firearms are just your normal everyday "regularly lethal" labeled instead of "exceptionally lethal" kind, they might change their collective 12 neurons to a positive outcome. Or not. Prolly not.
1 posted on 02/27/2017 7:30:33 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Muskets are out ?


2 posted on 02/27/2017 7:31:59 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: rktman

Thoughtful analysis is a waste of time when it comes to the courts these days. They have become nothing more than political hacks.


3 posted on 02/27/2017 7:34:09 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown

These courts need to be CLEANED OUT and replaced by upholders of the Constitution -— not the Marxist Democrat Party agenda.


4 posted on 02/27/2017 7:36:24 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: facedown

Are roll-your-own tobacco cigarettes also illegal because they resemble joints?


5 posted on 02/27/2017 7:36:26 AM PST by Pravious
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To: facedown

We must be forgetting about the living constitution which was designed to bend and flex with the current day situations. NOT! Of course there are a lot of people that think the bible is also flexing and bending to today’s world.


6 posted on 02/27/2017 7:36:31 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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I think their real definition for weapons of war includes any semi-automatic weapon, not just “assult rifles”.


7 posted on 02/27/2017 7:37:19 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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But the 4th Circuit described the sporting and hunting rifles as “exceptionally lethal weapons of war.”

Exceptionally lethal weapons of war are Nuclear Bombs, guided missiles and poison gases. Most of the rest are derivatives of stuff you can find at the fireworks stand around the end of June.

8 posted on 02/27/2017 7:39:16 AM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: facedown
Thoughtful analysis is a waste of time when it comes to the courts these days. They have become nothing more than political hacks.

Good post! Our Constitutional Rights are being taken from us by a rogue Judiciary. Obama packed the courts with judicial activists over his 8 year reign of disgrace.

9 posted on 02/27/2017 7:40:11 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: stylin19a


10 posted on 02/27/2017 7:40:26 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler ("Forewarned, forearmed; to be prepared is half the victory." --Miguel de Cervantes)
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To: rktman

A far cry from Miller vs US where they ruled a weapon had to have a military use to be covered by the 2nd amendment.


11 posted on 02/27/2017 7:40:51 AM PST by GMMC0987
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To: PROCON

Ping


12 posted on 02/27/2017 7:42:47 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Don Corleone

Exceptionally lethal weapons of war are Nuclear Bombs, guided missiles and poison gases.
= = =

Might ISIS execution methods also be considered Exceptionally Lethal?


13 posted on 02/27/2017 7:43:07 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: rktman

Not my area of expertise, but I think the 1934 Firearms Act outlawed certain weapons specifically because they were not used by the military. I believe the “sawed off shotgun” was in this category. There was a court case later in the 30s which should have pointed out that sawed off shotguns had been used WW1 trench fighting and had definite military application and, for that reason, should have been declared legal. But the court case was bungled and the law stood.

My limited knowledge of this comes from “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross and my memory may be faulty.

But at one point, I believe that being (or resembling) a military gun was the reason NOT to ban it. Oh how times change.


14 posted on 02/27/2017 7:43:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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Okay, gun manufacturers need to design nice looking rifles.
Pink, rainbow and other non threatening colors and appearance.
Not something a soldier would use, but for personal use.
It's all about marketing,

15 posted on 02/27/2017 7:43:56 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: GMMC0987

Thanks! Miller is the court case I was grasping for in my comment #14.


16 posted on 02/27/2017 7:44:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: rktman
Oh, look! Some #FakeJudges on one of the #FakeCourts made some stuff up!

Very Fake. Sad.

17 posted on 02/27/2017 7:46:10 AM PST by kiryandil (Will Hillary's BrownShirt Media thugs demand that The Deplorables all wear six-pointed Orange Stars?)
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To: antidemoncrat
I think their real definition for weapons of war includes any semi-automatic weapon, not just “assault rifles”.

You are wrong. They want them all just like in England. In fact in England you can not have an unlicensed air rifle with over 12 foot pounds of energy. For comparison a 22LR has about 100 foot pounds of energy.

18 posted on 02/27/2017 7:46:31 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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19 posted on 02/27/2017 7:47:50 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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But at one point, I believe that being (or resembling) a military gun was the reason NOT to ban it. Oh how times change.

That's because none of these #FakeJudges have gotten force-fed a gun butt, like they deserve.

20 posted on 02/27/2017 7:48:52 AM PST by kiryandil (Will Hillary's BrownShirt Media thugs demand that The Deplorables all wear six-pointed Orange Stars?)
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