Posted on 02/16/2017 3:14:39 PM PST by 198ml
The ever green around the gills state huh.
Well, Washington had its chance and done blew it.
The Lion of Judah is gonna roar, now.
[[Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that conscience rights don’t matter when it comes to running a business.]]
Sure they don’t- try forcing a muslim owner to do the same-
This also seems to be against the tenor of the Hobby Lobby decision.
Grind slow as they may, the wheels of justice can grind exceeding fine. The gayites may be quite rueful of the day they set this in motion, by the time the fat lady (or fat gentleman) sings.
The Moose might find a reason to do it anyhow. What we call homo and what they call homo isn’t always the same. There are funny technicalities and formalities in the Islamic faith system.
Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that conscience rights don’t matter when it comes to running a judiciary.
Without reference to a particular case, this says less than nothing.
The way around this is to take the money and then use it to hire a sub contractor.
In my experience most florists are owned by run by homosexuals so where do these people even find a Christian florist.
I used to work in the industry. This was 40 years ago and most of the shops then were operated by homosexuals.
| 2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved. |
One wouldn’t even want to do that for conscience sake.
But be that as it may, a Christian floral business likely could frame its business as strictly for biblically orthodox Christian religious purposes — even with a creed of beliefs associated. God won’t pick a fight if His enemies give Him a way to side step it. Big if, of course.
And orthodox evangelical followings have similar doctrinal assertions.
Conservatives and Christians tend to be good people, but we also need to balance that with situational awareness. When you are being assaulted, raped, enslaved, or otherwise attacked, you have a moral right and in fact a duty to (1) defend yourself, and (2) be as deceptive as necessary to improve your position.
Once someone “asks” you to actively participate in a gay parody of marriage, you are being threatened with enslavement. You will be compelled to obey against your will, against your First Amendment constitutional rights to the free exercise of religion and to freedom of association, and against your Eighth Amendment protection against excessive fines. At that point, you have not just the right but the duty to deceive or even directly lie rather than suffer persecution.
“Sure, I would be happy to do your flowers. I imagine that will run $180 . . . per guest. How many people are you inviting?”
“Of course, my fee for planning your arrangements would be $2300, nonrefundable, as a deposit before I provide my estimate for the full wedding. Will that be cash or check?”
Never, ever decline or explain your unusual or disproportionate fee structure. It is what it is, and that is simply your compensation for the amount of time you think their request would take you. In the context of your work, you have no objection to their perversion, at least none you share with anyone. Ever. You are happy to recommend a florist who might have a fee structure they would prefer, but what they have described is not a close match to your strengths, so you might not be as efficient as others. But you hope they will call back after price shopping.
Oh, that is exempted from religious freedom. So when is banning aliens from a handful of predominantly Muslim Countries the establishment of a US religion and counter to the Bill of Rights?
Ok, so anything involving Christians is not protected and anything involving other religions or lifestyles is protected.
It now makes sense. (NOT!)
The difference there may be their dedication to religious purposes.
Tribe and clan rights above the individual right...
If I was a florist, baker or photographer, I wouldn’t provide any services to weddings, or anything romantic at all for that matter. That way I would avoid any potential situation like this. In the wake of this decision, that’s what Stutzman should do. Or better yet, move out of the state of Washington!
You are a funny as the guy who suggested I make my unity candles and give them away for free.
Not exactly a viable business plan.
Bakers, florist and photographers make their living on weddings and romance.
How many times do people say, "I am going to buy a fancy cake, get special flowers and have a photographer over for someone I don't give a hoot about?"
So let’s suppose the Westboro Baptist Church decides to hold one of their “God Hates Fags” rallies at a military funeral in Washington (something that the Supreme Court has ruled is their Constitutional right). They try to hire a homosexual caterer to serve food at their rally. Can they sue the caterer if he refuses?
Whatever happened to the days when shopkeepers could put a sign up stating, “we reserve the right to serve x,y,z”?
Did y’all see that lesbo kiss on NCIS New Orleans a couple nights ago? I knew it was coming when they brought in the FBI agent and sure enough. They lost this viewer. Never again.
as a florist i'd give them the smallest oldest flowers i have, as a baker they'd get the most tasteless cake i could bake and as a photographer the pics would all be a little off kilter/center/focus with heads cut off etc ya might have to do it, but they can't make ya do a good job...
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