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Emergency: California’s Oroville Dam Spillway Near Failure, Evacuations Ordered
Breitbart ^ | Feb 12, 2017 | Joel B. Pollak1

Posted on 02/12/2017 4:26:47 PM PST by janetjanet998

Edited on 02/12/2017 9:33:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The California Department of Water Resources issued a sudden evacuation order shortly before 5 p.m. Sunday for residents near the Oroville Dam in northern California, warning that the dam’s emergency spillway would fail in the next 60 minutes.

The Oroville Dam is the highest in the nation.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: butte; california; dam; dwr; evacuation; lakeoroville; liveoroville; moonbeamcanyon; moonbeammadness; oroville; orovilledam; orovillelive; runaway; spillway; sutter; water; yuba
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea; janetjanet998; Ray76; maggief; Grampa Dave; Mariner; daisy12; LucyT; ...
>>Sizable "Turbulent Crest" at upper main spillway discussion: << This image indicates a symmetrical distribution of the "crest" focus of streams when the flow is balanced.

In contrast to post image 1,320 the "Crest" is sizable, indicating a different condition than the "balanced" flow. Again, this may be from the inlet turbulence.



1,361 posted on 02/18/2017 2:53:35 AM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea; janetjanet998; Ray76; maggief; Grampa Dave; Mariner; daisy12; LucyT; ...
>>Triangular shaped Berm at Inlet to Main Spillway Discussion<<

This image shows a lower water view of the front of the Main Spillway Weir.

You can see the vegetation (bush/tree) locations. The dark color is from a grassy covering. What is also of note is the wood debris laying on top of the other side inlet above the concrete. This debris matches the images that another engineering forum was debating as to what the material was (i.e. was it scoured erosion coloration, etc). This material was partially submerged from the inlet flow hydraulics. Yet it found an "eddy" where the material clustered together from the turbulent inflow.

The good news is that the berm itself does not seem to have experienced much scouring - other than the small surface erosion to aggregate material.



1,362 posted on 02/18/2017 3:04:55 AM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I was reading where some auxiliary spillways have “fuse plugs” - sounds sort of like a self-destruct mechanism that will cause the spillway to fail so the main dam won't . (Like a fuse in your electrical panel protects the wiring inside the walls.) I looked around on the Oroville dam, and I didn't see anything like that mentioned.

Obviously with the auxiliary spillway being much lower than the top of the dam, it would also prevent a build-up of pressure on the dam just with the water overflowing it.

At the same meeting I mentioned the “emergency” spillway, and another person (also an engineer that works with dams) quickly corrected me and said “We use the term auxiliary spillway.”

I'm sure they have their reasons for the nomenclature - but in this case, seeing as it is the first time since it was built in 1968 that water has gone over the top, this spillway could be properly called an “emergency spillway”!)

1,363 posted on 02/18/2017 3:09:36 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here’s an article on some of the history of the auxiliary spillway, and concerns on it’s construction. Of course 14 years after they were raised, they just now cut the powerlines in anticipation of the towers failing:

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Many groups knew that, if the reservoir were ever hit by a major flood, water toppling over the emergency spillway would cause serious erosion. In 2002, the Yuba County Water Agency – which owns transmission lines and other infrastructure in the area – highlighted these concerns in a technical memorandum.

“The discharge area below the emergency spillway is not armored, and extensive erosion would take place if the emergency spillway were used,” the memo stated. “The spillway road and possibly high voltage transmission towers would be impacted.”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article132528514.html#storylink=cpy


1,364 posted on 02/18/2017 3:16:36 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: Ray76; leakinInTheBlueSea; janetjanet998; maggief; Grampa Dave; Mariner; daisy12; LucyT; ...
>> Bubbles captured by Fox10 helicopter news crew - they zoomed in on them as they were surfacing <<

Here is the significant (some noted as "car sized") bubbles that were surfacing in front of the Emergency Spillway. The equivalent water displacement for these sized & number of "bubbles" indicates a penetrating flow. Where to has not been discussed by authorities other than unconfirmed reports of "leaks" (scanner traffic). Maggief has more info on the "reports" in some of her excellent detective work.



1,365 posted on 02/18/2017 3:16:38 AM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

It would be interesting to see a video of that, to see if they are in fact bubbles. There are no ripples from any prior bubbles, and the camera just so happened to be here when the bubbles appeared. Maybe they’re just reflections. Need video.


1,366 posted on 02/18/2017 3:31:41 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: 21twelve

The auxiliary spillway seems to been a perfunctory effort. It will only be used during a high water event, the very worst time to be pouring water on bare earth (as if there is a good time). They could have at least hardened the area out to the crest of the hill.


1,367 posted on 02/18/2017 3:44:41 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: maggief

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/transportation/back-seat-driver/article133485154.html

‘Mass chaos’ of Oroville evacuation prompts worry over exit strategy

http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article133326709.html

Oroville Dam: Spillway releases dialed back to relieve pressure on downstream levees, repair power plant

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-live-updates-oroville-dam-150-000-cubic-yards-of-debris-stand-in-1487367268-htmlstory.html

150,000 cubic yards of debris stand in the way of Oroville Dam’s hydroelectric plant restart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8rbYVhM7cU&app=desktop

Lake Oroville Spillway blowout footage 2/17/17

Published on Feb 17, 2017
Some awesome video from the base of the spillway and still shots of the Excavators being assembled at the base to clear the sediment buildup in the Diversion channel..

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http://www.kcra.com/article/officials-may-operate-controlled-spillway-for-first-time-since-1997/8950579

Officials may operate controlled spillway for first time since 1997 - Lake Don Pedro

Turlock Irrigation District officials may operate its controlled spillway Monday or Tuesday for the first time in two decades.

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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-storm-los-angeles-20170217-story.html

Major flooding, mudslides and deadly winds as biggest storm in years barrels into L.A. area

https://twitter.com/abc7robmcmillan/status/832815027849551872/video/1

Rob McMillanVerified account
@abc7robmcmillan

INCREDIBLE VIDEO: part of SB I-15 is washed away; fire engine tumbles off the side; fortunately no one hurt

8:52 PM - 17 Feb 2017 from Rancho Cucamonga, CA


1,368 posted on 02/18/2017 4:13:52 AM PST by maggief
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To: EarthResearcher333
I remember a couple of aerial video shots that showed turbulent brown water below the water from the emergency overflow over near the parking lot. Yes, it could have been fresh erosion, but it was shocking.

At the last video I saw before the water began to recede, there were a couple of spots below the emergency spillway, near the main spillway that shows streams of water coming out like fire hoses. The impression I had was that there were two streams of water, under pressure working their way beneath the emergency spillway.

I agree they are withholding data from the public, but I would expect that examination on the lake side of the spillway would reveal where water was escaping. They can't afford to ever let the water get this high again. Northern California dodged a bullet.

1,369 posted on 02/18/2017 4:17:34 AM PST by Dustoff45 (Where there is smoke, there is someone playing with matches trying to start a fire.)
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To: maggief

Tin foil hat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j_qxZGPbEI&feature=youtu.be

What Is Causing This Radar Anomaly At Oroville Dam In California


1,370 posted on 02/18/2017 4:24:09 AM PST by maggief
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To: Ray76

>>It would be interesting to see a video of that, to see if they are in fact bubbles.<<

I watched the video. I saw the bubbles coming up and bursting. I captured some of the video into images (this is one of them). I’d have to search for the video source if it is online still.

Not reflections.

What was interesting is the helicopter camera operator was in a wide angle view of the whole dam. Then he saw these huge bubbles coming up. That is when the operator zoomed in to this view. So they too saw the action.


1,371 posted on 02/18/2017 4:24:30 AM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

I’ll take your word for it.


1,372 posted on 02/18/2017 4:27:31 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Yaelle; SE Mom; tomkat; Ray76; pax_et_bonum; EarthResearcher333; WildHighlander57

Very cool!

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article133545764.html

Check out this interactive 3D model of Oroville Dam

OROVILLE DAM master model for 3D printing by EOSGIS on Sketchfab

Want to get a great perspective of the Oroville Dam and surrounding areas? Below is a 3D model that will let you zoom around and remember the main spillway as it was before the huge hole emerged.

To zoom, scroll or pinch. To pan, right-click and drag or use two fingers to drag on touch devices.

(at link)


1,373 posted on 02/18/2017 4:33:03 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

That first link is interesting. Evac a success? Wow. Q: Was contraflow used? If not, why not? And is Hwy 70 an Interstate? If not, why the heck should federal taxpayers get stuck with a $320 mil plus tab for expanding it. That’s CA’s problem.


1,374 posted on 02/18/2017 4:37:27 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: maggief

That’s so cool...great perspective.


1,375 posted on 02/18/2017 4:41:28 AM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: EarthResearcher333

“This enlarged image shows trees growing in the berm/embankment that what looks like a concrete wall that joins to the upside down “J” of the curved “approach wall” inlet.”

Comparing this image with the image you posted in #1320 showing the turbulence before the spillway gate, it appears to me that the “upside down J” approach wall is gone, and may have collapsed.

The concrete wall that joined it remains, and the earth that abutted it on the near side has eroded away allowing water to flow on both sides of it, but at least two of the trees remain.

If true, could this be the cause of the turbulence you circled in #1320?


1,376 posted on 02/18/2017 4:45:17 AM PST by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: EarthResearcher333

Thanks for all the pics and the info! Q: In that pic, it looks like one side of the spillway, the left side, is lower than the other? Is that the case?


1,377 posted on 02/18/2017 4:46:09 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: mewzilla

Gov. Moonbeam cut state highway funds.

http://www.chicoer.com/article/NA/20160425/NEWS/160429819


1,378 posted on 02/18/2017 4:52:28 AM PST by maggief
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To: mewzilla

>>Q: In that pic, it looks like one side of the spillway, the left side, is lower than the other? Is that the case?<<

No there is no tilting.

This “crest peak” may look as an illusion as the water has a natural shift in the sluice jetting. However, in this large “Crest” peaking, it is most likely from an asymmetrical input flow from the turbulence in front of the Weir inlet.


1,379 posted on 02/18/2017 4:56:22 AM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: maggief

Got to have funds to feed sanctuary cities, lavish pensions, and railroads to nowhere. Can’t be wasting money on roads.


1,380 posted on 02/18/2017 4:56:47 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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