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Vanity: Can the president ignore the court and continue with his valid executive order?
February 9, 2017 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/09/2017 4:01:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Vanity Discussion Question: Can the president ignore the court order and continue with his valid executive order?

It appears the president is acting in accordance to his constitutional powers and specifically in accordance to laws regarding immigration and has been challenged and overridden by an unconstitutionally political activist (liberal) court.

If so, can he can he continue with his valid orders controlling the actions of the executive branch? No doubt this would set up a "constitutional crisis" but this is going to happen soon anyway as it's the only way we will ever restore constitutional government, ie, the liberal activist courts will have to be toppled eventually. Why not now while we have a strong president and Republican majorities in both housees of congress?

Just askin'.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; coequalbranches; commanderinchief; conflictofpowers; consitutionalcrisis; constitution; courts; immigration; judicialactivism; judicialtyranny; nationalsecurity; publicsafety; ruleoflaw; separationofpowers; travelban; trump; waronterror
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To: TheConservator

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BTW, you’re a squish.
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261 posted on 02/09/2017 8:00:19 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DoughtyOne

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>> “He didn’t cause one. The Federal Judges did.” <<

Exactly.
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262 posted on 02/09/2017 8:01:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Helicondelta

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>> “If he ignores a court decision, the impeachment proceedings will start next week.” <<

Bullshit!

This crap has gone down countless times before.

Trump’s order was completely lawful, and there is no court that has venue on this.
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264 posted on 02/09/2017 8:05:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump for later


265 posted on 02/09/2017 8:08:54 PM PST by Darth Mall
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks editor-surveyor.

Sooner or later, we prevail here.


266 posted on 02/09/2017 8:09:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Almondjoy

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>> “Of course they have the authority. They get to decide whether the President is following the law that congress has passed.” <<

Balderdash!

The separation of powers prevents the court from interfering. There is no US citizen affected by the order, thus the court has no venue.
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267 posted on 02/09/2017 8:10:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jim Robinson

Justice Taney tried something similar with Andrew Jackson.
Jackson replied, “Let him enforce it.”
Georgia ignored the order, life went on.


268 posted on 02/09/2017 8:12:30 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Crucial

>I don’t believe this nation will survive Islam without major changes returning the original idea of what it means to be an American.<

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This nation will NOT survive islam.

It is already lost now that we have decided to allow these barbarians to live among us.


269 posted on 02/09/2017 8:12:30 PM PST by 353FMG (AMERICA FIRST.)
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To: Artcore

Go ahead, look at my past postings, I’ve been a Trump supporter the whole way.

To somehow claim that today isn’t the result of a very poorly played hand is quite delusional. Trump should have told the Fed Judge in Seattle to mind his own business. The Potus has legal right on immigration.

No, instead he gave that faggot standing, and entered the 9th circuity. This was totally unecessary.

So now, whatever Trump does, some faggoty fed judge will object, and we play this game? Holy toledo, you can’t see this being a problem? Look at the papers tomorrow then, because they will be howling about it.

Again, and I’ve worried about this for days now, PERHAPS there is some brilliant plan behind all this, but that is looking less and less likely, UNLESS Trump bans ALL immigration tomorrow, citing the confusion about this subject.

If Trump DOES that , he’s a genius. If not, we’ve been set up to fail in a most damaging way.

Sorry if that hurts YOUR BUTT.


270 posted on 02/09/2017 8:13:46 PM PST by Professional
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To: Helicondelta

The liberal courts can rule against Trump’s executive orders as fast as he can sign them. Then the press can gleefully report that yet another EO has been struck down. It’s either fight the courts on this executive order or ignore them.

At least fighting the courts and spotlighting their stupidity might give Trump enough cover to go ahead and rightfully enforce it.


271 posted on 02/09/2017 8:20:08 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Professional

My bet is President Trump is a genius not a poor card player.


272 posted on 02/09/2017 8:21:44 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Professional

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>> “How the hell do you take the strongest national conservative mandate in 100 yrs and hand it over to the most liberal court in the USA?” <<

Easy. A large percentage of GOP congress critters are owned lock stock and barrel by George Soros.

How the hell did you lose your bladder control?
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273 posted on 02/09/2017 8:22:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Duchess47

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I don’t know if he’s a genius, but he definitely has the authority to do what did.

Perhaps there may have been smoother ways of doing it.


274 posted on 02/09/2017 8:25:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Paleo Pete

ISIS is already here. It’s simply beyond comprehension that they wouldn’t have taken the initiative under Barack’s reign. Trump’s election would have sped up their operations tremendously if it even needed it.


275 posted on 02/09/2017 8:25:36 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Defiant

I wouldn’t put it past them, but they would have to explain the Arizona ruling.


276 posted on 02/09/2017 8:29:42 PM PST by Rusty0604 (bc)
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To: Crucial

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ISIS stands no chance here.

The american people are the best armed infantry in the world.

They succeed only where the people are weak and unarmed.
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277 posted on 02/09/2017 8:45:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Defiant; Rusty0604

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>> “... and the courts rule that it’s not the Federal government’s prerogative.” <<

The US constitution makes it the sole prerogative of the Fed Gov.
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278 posted on 02/09/2017 8:48:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: combat_boots

“We are already in a Constitutional crisis.”

Indeed we are. Foreign national “rights” outweigh the Presidents.


279 posted on 02/09/2017 8:49:48 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Montaignes Cat
Re an 1831 case before the Supreme Court, President Andrew Jackson supposedly said: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!”

I think we are at that point in our country once again, with the rogue gay judge in Seattle making his initial ruling (apparently after only 15 minutes of deliberation) and the left-wing 9th federal circuit court upholding the stay. I hope that President Trump says something similar or even identical to what President Andrew Jackson said, and then let the sh_t hit the fan. We are at that point now in our country. I hope that President Trump issues a new EO tomorrow morning. I am sick & tired of living & dealing with these liberals/anarchists/BLM/marxists/obamites, etc.

280 posted on 02/09/2017 9:17:06 PM PST by rcrngroup
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