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Rising seas and pounding storms taking toll on Highway 37
Press Democrat ^ | 3 Feb 2017

Posted on 02/03/2017 9:40:00 AM PST by rey

Surveying flooding along Highway 37 in January, ecologist Fraser Shilling began doubting his projections for when climate change will cause severe, perhaps catastrophic impacts on the major North Bay thoroughfare.

In an influential 2016 report used as a guide for the highway’s future, Shilling, co-director of the Road Ecology Center at UC Davis, had established a timetable of several decades for those impacts to be fully realized.

But that was before January storms forced the full or partial closure of the highway for roughly 12 days, causing havoc for thousands of daily commuters.

“We’re starting to overwhelm the system in places that we were thinking we had 20 years of lead time. But we don’t,” Shilling said this week from his office in Davis. Delaying action could be catastrophic, he said, predicting that one day water will push over embankments and levees and the highway will be “gone.”

Highway 37, one of the lowest-lying in California, has long been threatened by climate change and rising sea levels, inadequate levees and political waffling over who bears responsibility for maintaining and upgrading the road. The 21-mile highway meanders across four counties — Solano, Napa, Sonoma and Marin — traversing tidal marshlands, rivers and creeks, and farmland where flooding presents a threat to livelihoods.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; calif; climatechange
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yes. You have a very valid point. Let somebody else worry about and pay for it. It’s their way, apparently.


21 posted on 02/03/2017 10:02:07 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

“Highway 37, one of the lowest-lying in California, has long been threatened by climate change and rising sea levels, inadequate levees and political waffling over who bears responsibility for maintaining and upgrading the road. The 21-mile highway meanders across four counties — Solano, Napa, Sonoma and Marin — traversing tidal marshlands, rivers and creeks, and farmland where flooding presents a threat to livelihoods.”

Here is a solution for California. Build desalination facilities along the coast. Use wind and solar to power the facilities. Pump the fresh water inland to grow crops which will eat the CO2 while at the same time, the desalination facilities will keep the oceans from rising and wiping out California. Use the money you are going to spend on the train to nowhere to fund the project.

Just saved California as well as saved California billions. Oh, important piece of information. All desalination facilities will be build where the rich Hollywood actors live, since they are such environmentalists.


22 posted on 02/03/2017 10:04:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Nuke Bilderberg from orbit. It''s the only way to be sure.)
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To: rey

No new material to raise the roads above sea level.
No new work or new material for the levees that protect against high tide.

You just can’t fix stupid.

Or probably can’t.

When folks have to drive through Napa via 29 and 121 to get to and from the 101, they might, just might, allow some road work.


23 posted on 02/03/2017 10:07:32 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Actually, I was responding to a post about the Gulf Coast which I took to mean the traditional description.

That aside. I do like your ideas about desalinization et al. I hear Israel does very well with it.

I also agree about the train stuff :0)


24 posted on 02/03/2017 10:08:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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I live off of Hwy 37 and was impacted by two six-day closures. In the 20 years we’ve lived here, I think the road was maybe closed twice - for a couple of hours each time. We’ve had more rain in the past and there was no flooding. Local sentiment is that maintenance dredging hadn’t been done. Saw a crew dredging on Wednesday. It’s not global warming.


25 posted on 02/03/2017 10:12:14 AM PST by Kipp
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To: Gaffer
Ain't your fault FRiend.

No shortage of dunces from all across the fruited plain.

Besides you won the one that counted this year!


26 posted on 02/03/2017 10:15:08 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Gaffer

He probably is elected from one of those ‘safe’ districts created when the Dems were in charge in the Georgia legislature. They did the same in Florida as well. They created these Minority Districts so that they would have a ‘lock’ on those votes, and it would remain in Democrat hands permanently. But what they did not take into consideration was that in order to create these Minority Districts, they had to rob (D) voters from other nearby districts, making them less prone to vote (D) in the future. They also failed to take into account that they might not be in power after the next election, because they had been in power in these states for many decades since Reconstruction was over.

So when the Republicans finally came to power and redistricting was their responsibility, they kept these Minority Districts intact, for obvious reasons, like being called ‘RACIST’ for getting rid of them and electing people like Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) just being a prime example of the other.

Now the Dems are stuck with them permanently and can’t get rid of them on their watch, nor persuade the Republicans to do it either..............


27 posted on 02/03/2017 10:16:38 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Red Badger
He probably is elected from one of those ‘safe’ districts created when the Dems were in charge in the Georgia legislature.

Most definitely. His constituents only care that he is black and he works to keep their property tax bills from becoming delinquent. Just like all the Atlanta politicians do.

28 posted on 02/03/2017 10:18:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Fightin Whitey

Thanks. But Obama stuffed us with a whole bunch of illegals and refugees. It’s getting harder to keep control.


29 posted on 02/03/2017 10:19:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: rey

It was a storm. Storms this size happen periodically, that’s why we have “100 year” and “500 year” storms. Sometimes you even get big storms in back to back years.


30 posted on 02/03/2017 10:41:10 AM PST by D Rider
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To: onedoug

The worlds oceans obviously rise higher in some areas than others.


31 posted on 02/03/2017 11:10:32 AM PST by zek157
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To: All

Check out the actual data here -

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.html

No big deal, predicted rises in the order of 6 inch to one foot over 100 years in that area.


32 posted on 02/03/2017 11:42:35 AM PST by az_gila
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To: zek157
Re> The worlds oceans obviously rise higher in some areas than others

Some parts of the ocean have more sponges growing there

33 posted on 02/03/2017 11:50:38 AM PST by IC Ken
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To: zek157

“The worlds oceans obviously rise higher in some areas than others.”

Yes, for the “flat earth folks” this a problem because it really isn’t flat, it’s tilted slightly! (s)
FWIW I drive Hwy 37 often (our daughter who lives in Petaluma just arrived here having driven 37 to get here. The ONLY real problem with 37 is it’s only two lanes and needs to be four. Normally, the roadbed is 6 to 10 feet above the water in the sloughs on either side of it. Hell, the eastern approach to the Dumbarton Bridge (which I drove across last evening) on SF Bay is a whole lot closer to the water than is 37 and no one is bitching about it! This is simply more “envirowhacko scare tactics” coupled with the notion that they will get more grant money to “study” all of this stuff.


34 posted on 02/03/2017 11:52:38 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

was there even a road there 100 years ago?


35 posted on 02/03/2017 11:54:26 AM PST by CJ Wolf (just a conspiracy theory, no facts behind the above post.)
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To: rey

Amazing how a level sea will only rise in just a few choice places throughout the globe.

Miami was supposed to be gone by now.


36 posted on 02/03/2017 12:14:29 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I thank God, Broom Hillary was stopped. Now, moving on, I pray for Trump.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Didn't you hear??

I got it straight off CNN!

37 posted on 02/03/2017 12:42:46 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: CJ Wolf

“was there even a road there 100 years ago?”

Well I doubt it, but at 76, I wasn’t there so who knows! But as it’s tidal marsh land that was filled to put in an above-water level roadway, I’d say doubtful.


38 posted on 02/03/2017 1:03:55 PM PST by vette6387
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To: rey

Wow, who knew storms could cause flooding?!?

We had two roads get washed out a few years ago and we’re nowhere near the ocean.


39 posted on 02/03/2017 1:14:39 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: vette6387

Well what they are talking about is probably causing some environmental destruction and climate change on the whole anyway and likely shouldn’t be there. I know the road next to me does and it keeps getting potholes it would would be destroyed by climate change in the new few years if we didn’t fill them in. Also please note the environmental destruction caused by the loss of wildlife. Deer and raccoon lose their life nightly not to mention the squirrels. I can’t count the lost insects smashing into my windshield in the summer that had no reason to die if humans didn’t build that road.


40 posted on 02/03/2017 2:01:51 PM PST by CJ Wolf (just a conspiracy theory, no facts behind the above post.)
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