Posted on 01/17/2017 10:11:15 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee
PARIS--Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir said on Monday he was positive about the way the incoming U.S. administration wanted to restore American influence in the world, contain Iran and fight Islamic State.
"We are optimistic about the incoming administration and look forward to working with it in all areas that are a concern for both of us," Jubeir told reporters in Paris.
"We will look at the Trump administration's view as articulated. Wanting to restore America's role in the world, we welcome this. Wanting to defeat ISIS (Islamic State), absolutely. Wanting to contain Iran ... absolutely."
Jubeir said the interests of the world's largest oil exporter were aligned with those of the United States, be it geopolitically - in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Iran - or on energy and financial issues.
"The objectives we want to achieve are the same. We may have disagreements on how to get there, but we don't disagree on what needs to be done, and that will not change," he said. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
This from Saudi Barbaria, creators of ISIS to fight Iranian influence in Syria and Iraq.
Having achieved unwittingly just the opposite (Iran is strengthened in both countries) the Wahabbi desert monkeys hope that they can trick Trump into saving their sorry asses.
Trust the Saudis as far as you can throw the entire royal family.
They are the ones funding the jihad.
Bullcrap. The Saudis want us to install a sunni state in the place of the secular Assad Syrian state. This is just his effort to seduce Trump to following the existing policy, nothing more.
These “Fat Freddies” in SA are just hoping that Trump will keep them in their palaces without their having to spend a dime to protect themselves.
“The Saudis want us to install a sunni state in the place of the secular Assad Syrian state.”
I doubt that. I remember Al Qaeda’s primary concern was how its actions effected opinion in Saudi Arabia. Their goal was to supplant the Saudi monarchy.
The Saudi royal family is large and includes members who support anti-royalist elements and probably many members who are true believers in fundamental Islam, but I believe the majority just wants to keep their privileges.
I know it isn’t popular, but I want someone to explain to me how Iran is ANY worse than the wahabbist Sunnis. ISIS is sunni, 9/11 was sunni, the Boston bombers were sunni, 7/7 was sunni, Madrid was Sunni, Beslan was sunni, Paris was sunni, Nice truck attack was sunni, Berlin was sunni, the euro rape-ugees are sunni, two Russian airliners blown up near Volgograd was sunni. The Russian airliner in the Sinai was sunni, Fort Hood was sunni, the Taliban is Sunni, Osama was sunni, Boko Haram is sunni, the Moslem Brotherhood is sunni, the cartoon contest shooters were sunni, San Bernadino was sunni, the Florida nightclub was sunni...
The list is very lopsided. Iran is an enemy of course, but I hate this anti-iran stampede because what it is actually meant the sunnis as legitimate and an ally, and casting everything shia as the problem.
It isn’t making sense. Again, Iran sucks, but they have small Christian and Jewish communities. Women can drive and have way more freedom than the Saudis do. They have a big Zoroastrian population. Against Saudi Arabia, Iran looks like a wild eyed bunch of free thinkers.
We shouldn’t
“I doubt that. I remember Al Qaeda’s primary concern was how its actions effected opinion in Saudi Arabia. Their goal was to supplant the Saudi monarchy.”
Except the Syrian rebellion was created by us doing Saudi and gulf state bidding. They are full supporters of the rebel movement. They want Assad gone. They don’t want to take his place. So that leaves one option. They want a sunni state in place of Assad.
You are 100% right.
Saudis are heart and core of the Jihadi scourge.
But most here prefer to uncritically follow the neocon/Likud line that Iran is the “big bad” and the Saudis are good, trustworthy fellows.
The US is again being suckered into a wrong fight.
Let me correct my previous statement... most here ignore the neocon/Likud complicity/hypocrisy when it comes to Saudi Arabia and it’s jihadi minions.
I live for the day I can see youtubes of the House of Saud family herding goats from oasis to oasis to feed their families and lancing boils on their camels a$$.
I hope Trump doesn’t get suckered into another ME war or fight. I tend to think Trump’s idea of the US being energy independent is to put the ME betw a rock and hard place both socially and financially.
I don’t understand our goals in Syria and I hate to sound like a Saudi apologist, but a Saudi Arabian goal of preventing Iranian advancement would at least be logical. That plus a desire to placate Sunni extremists would seem to me to match their actions.
My initial, gut level reaction is anything that pleases the Saudis is bad for America.
Logical from their position... yes.
But is it logical for the US to save their worthless parasitic butts (perhaps again sacrificing American blood)? No it is not. The Saudis have done much more harm to us, then Iran ever has. Yet we treat the Saudis as an ally. Israel meanwhile is pushing us into giving the Saudi hyeanas more support (there was recently an interview with Netanyahu who was giddy about the good Israeli-Saudi relations).
With “friends” like the Saudis we truly don’t need enemies.
secondary...
Primary is pipelines to EU to sell NG and oil direct... cutting off GAZPROM monopoly.
Hence the chaos in Libya and Iraq.. all those reserves off the market and trying to keep Iran off the market too... follow the money or in this case the NG. Also explains the Israeli position with the large NG finds off their cost 3 years ago..
What have the Saudis done to improve any situation?
>>>” but they have small Christian and Jewish communities.”<<<
Not so small if you compare to rest of North Africa and ME.
Approximately 240,000 Armenians in Iran. Largest group of Armenians outside Armenia. And around 50,000 Assyrians. Additionally, overall Christian population is estimated to be growing by approx 20% in Iran (thru conversion).
Problem is that officially they can’t identify themselves as Christians if converts from Islam, if in Iran; so the numbers are definitely larger than stated. There are around 300 churches in Iran today.
Approximately 9,500 Jews (born Jews) in Iran today. The largest number outside Israel and in an officially ‘muslim country’, and a country where the ruling regime are Islamic theocracts. Around 50 synagogues in Iran today.
These are sizeable numbers by ME/North Africa standards, or any officially muslim country.
The Saudis and Qataris goals in Syria are twofold:
1) Replace Assad so that the Qatari oil/gas section in the Persian Gulf (called North Dome), which they share with the Iranian section (called South Pars), can be extended to and sold in Europe via a pipeline through Syria and Lebanon - this is advantageous for Saudis too. Assad has firmly said NO to SA and Qatar. Russia has her own interests there too.
2) Any replacement of Assad gov’t will be a Sunni and most likely a wahhabi/salafist proxy, which the Saudis and Qataris fund & support. Hence they think they can control them by giving them a share of Syrian land and oil/gas pipeline deal to divert their attention from trying to foment discontent in SA in particular to topple the regime.
Two other related facts:
a) Saudis and many of their satellite Gulf states have always had a problem with Iran, even during the Shah’s gov’t. They always felt threatened, one way or another. Note: SA and Qatar are artificial lands created & supported by the British post WW1.
b) IS, AQ and their Islamist offshoots are mercenaries who primarily work for money from their masters. Their religious ideology, which is that of wahhabi/salafist in line with Saudi/Qatari one is secondary and a tool for training & mobilising these 1st class terrorists & their recruits.
I think the current Jordanian king and his gov’t would be much more responsible leaders if they were to take over SA & its governance.
You’re right.
Israel in addition wouldn’t mind a larger share of Syrian land. Israeli gov’t is very much aligned with the SA and Qatar gov’ts, though Israeli nationals can’t officially enter SA or any of the Gulf states with an Israeli passport. See #19.
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