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What is the Hegelian Dialectic?
My own intrigue ^ | 2005 | Niki Raapana and Nordica Friedrich

Posted on 01/07/2017 12:08:46 PM PST by knarf

"The communitarian synthesis is the final silent move in a well-designed, quietly implemented plot to re-make the world into colonies. To us it doesn't matter if there is some form of ancient religion that propels the plotters, nor does it really matter if it turns out they're aliens (as some suggest). The bottom line is the Hegelian dialectic sets up the scene for state intervention, confiscation, and redistribution in the U.S., and this is against our ENTIRE constitutional based society. The Hegelian dialectic is not a conspiracy theory because the Conspiracy Theory is a fraud. We've all been duped by global elitists who plan to take totalitarian control of all nation's people, property, and produce. Communitarian Plans exist in every corner of the world, and nobody at the local level will explain why there's no national legal avenue to withdraw from the U.N.'s "community" development plan"


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; governmentcontrol; hegel; hegeliandialectic; manufacturedcrisis
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To: REDWOOD99

That’s known as a Hagelion knot.


21 posted on 01/07/2017 12:52:39 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: knarf

There’s good there’s evil, but than there’s compromise and the Republican congress.


22 posted on 01/07/2017 12:52:42 PM PST by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: knarf

They used to sell them at Radio Shack.


23 posted on 01/07/2017 1:03:47 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Glad2bnuts

Well you’re not wrong so that’s good :)


24 posted on 01/07/2017 1:10:02 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: knarf

Is that like the Millenium Falcon?


25 posted on 01/07/2017 1:11:10 PM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Vic S

Bkmrk.


26 posted on 01/07/2017 1:16:23 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (****happy dance**** BIGLY!!!!)
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To: knarf

>>ONE such being a “bullying policy”

“Bullying” policy is an excellent example of Post-Modernist thought totally corrupting the benefits of using the dialectic to find the “better” and eventually the “best” truth.

Post-Modern dialectic
Thesis: bullying is bad
Anti-thesis: bullying is good
Synthesis: Pass a strict, zero-tolerance no bullying policy.

There is no room for a new Thesis/Anti-thesis>>Synthesis with this line of thought. No “best” truth can be found.

Practical dialectic
Thesis: bullying is bad
Anti-thesis: bullying is good
Synthesis: When you consider all forms of juvenile aggression, some things are unacceptable and should be punished as bullying, but other things are just a part of socialization and do not cause any lasting harm, but can teach valuable life lessons for all involved. So a bullying policy that considers all the facts is warranted.

This Synthesis is a new Thesis and can be addressed by a new Anti-Thesis to find a “better” truth.


27 posted on 01/07/2017 1:21:53 PM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: knarf
As described by Hagel, the dialectic process applies to almost everything. For example, any society, culture, or political system or movement contains within itself contradictions which emerge over time and lead to its overthrow and the formation of a successor system. This is thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.

Whether it's true on not, I read once that there are certain species of ants which enslave other ants. As time goes by, the master ants become weak from the debilitating effects of luxury and unable to control their slave ants, who have become stronger in the meantime. The slave ants eventually revolt and enslave their masters who become slaves in their turn, and so on, and so on. The modern political analogies are endless.

28 posted on 01/07/2017 1:30:46 PM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: Bryanw92

Murder is bad>>murder is good>>let’s be reasonable and find a middle ground.


29 posted on 01/07/2017 2:34:09 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: Fiddlstix

Notice that Jesus spoke in a simple easy to understand way.


30 posted on 01/07/2017 2:37:51 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

>>Murder is bad>>murder is good>>let’s be reasonable and find a middle ground.

This is why we have degrees of murder, manslaughter, and justifiable homicide in our law. Are you saying that since murder is bad, then all murder should be punished as 1st degree homicide?

Even people who don’t understand Hegel instinctively use his dialectic.


31 posted on 01/07/2017 2:41:53 PM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

No I am saying all murder is bad, not “killing” because sometimes people have to kill in self defense.


32 posted on 01/07/2017 2:51:06 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: Bryanw92
The Hegelian Dielectric is an electrical phenomenon that can be calculated by the following polarization equation:

Strontium titanate presents Dielectric properties

33 posted on 01/07/2017 2:51:21 PM PST by Thibodeaux (the end of Obama plague is near........ rejoice)
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To: cradle of freedom

>>No I am saying all murder is bad, not “killing” because sometimes people have to kill in self defense.

My point exactly. Murder IS bad, but our synthesis states that it is sometimes justified.


34 posted on 01/07/2017 2:58:13 PM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

Murder means wrongful killing.

Try this one: Rape is bad...Rape is good. Let’s be reasonable and find a middle ground.


35 posted on 01/07/2017 3:08:55 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: knarf
From the referenced article:

The passage illustrates the controversy in Latin American Catholicism between those who continue to endorse the "third-position-ism" (tercerismo) of Catholic social teaching and those (including all liberation theologians that I know of) who believe that only socialism can be in accord with Christian values." Theology Today-Basic Ecclesial Communities in Brazil: The Challenge of a New Way of Being Church By Marcello deC. Azevedo, S.J.Washington, D.C., Georgetown University Press, 1987. 304 Pp. (my emphasis)

Who does not know that Brooke Foss Westcott and his student and lifelong associate Fenton John Anthony Hort were the authors of a synthesized Greek text that was never seen by human eye before 1881? Its progenitors were three Greek texts, each which was corrupted, but acclaimed to be bet because they were the oldest manuscripts. One of them, the text found by Tischendorf in the barrel of papers discarded by the monks at St. Catherine's monastery on the Sinai peninsula, and used to light fires. Tischendorf "rescued" it, and it (while rejected by its age-old owners, the monks) became one of the principal texts for Westcott and Hort's fabricated text, from which is the "critical" text used for all modern versions of the English "Bibles" save one--the New King James Bible, translated by Art Farstad from the Textus Receptus, the Byzantine/Majority textform from which the English Crown-authorized Version (KJV) was translated.

Why do I say all this? It is because not only was Westcott a rejecter of the preserved texts for the old Bible, but a Fabian, influenced by politics of the area where he was born, a dabbler in seances, and whose liberal theology open to question, but indeed one of, if not the author of the approach known as "the social gospel," echoing the above assertion of Azevedo. This theoretical approach of evangelism by political means now suffuses nearly all of the missionary work of the major Catholic and Protestant Reformed denominations, which makes them, in my regard, worse than useless.

But the proof of Westcott's commitment to this means of applying his theories is that he became the founder and first executive officer of the Christian Social Union in Britain in the later 1800s. He is considered one of the leading innovators of what is today, in different countries, the party of Christian Socialists (click here). Here is an excerpt from that site:

"Christian socialism is a form of religious socialism based on the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Many Christian socialists believe capitalism to be idolatrous and rooted in greed, which some Christian denominations consider a mortal sin.[1] Christian socialists identify the cause of inequality to be the greed that they associate with capitalism.[1]" (my emphasis)

I firmly believe that this attitude toward the texts of the Bible influenced Westcott and Hort and all their supporters to date to disregard the authority of the Biblical texts which the Bible itself asserts that God would keep it and preserve it forever.

But the authors of the synthetic Greek text, leaning on the Hegelian approach, refuted this and maintained that they were now synthesizing a text regained through identifying copyists errors and idiosyncratic expansion such that the texts for the Vulgate and the Douay-Rheims and King James translations were invalid.

FRiend, I don't buy anything the socialist "communitarians" (communists) have come up with as a key to a better future for my progeny, whether it is in the political sphere or the religious one.

I hope you see things the same way. Thanks for posting this article!

P. S. Here's another link to Westcott, mentioned by today's Christian Socialists calling themselves "Christians on the Left::

"Christians on the Left: History of Our Movement"

Their goals:

"A new constitution committed CSM members to pray, give and work for Christian unity, international reconciliation, redistribution of wealth, a classless society, world peace with nuclear and general disarmament and 'the common ownership and democratic control of the productive resources of the earth'."

36 posted on 01/07/2017 3:22:13 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: knarf
most if not all America's problems could be eliminated if Constitutionalist board members were in charge of each local school district.

The root of the problem (from my experience) is that most people don't know the proper role of the school board, which is to represent the local taxpayers in school district business matters.

Where I live a few educators run for the school board positions unopposed because of this voter ignorance.

We end up with school business being transacted by educators with no oversight.

Informing neighbors, friends, etc. about the proper role and purpose of the board is the fix for the root cause.

37 posted on 01/07/2017 3:29:53 PM PST by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: bankwalker
More'n'at.

We're The House Of Representatives with the purse strings.

I have challenged My board (only one other member of like mindedness, but we're workin' on one or two others to come on board this year) .. with the unConstitutional 4th Amendment violations of the two programs (that I know of) that document personal data mining of innocent and incapable of fighting for themselves, children in every aspect of their life/activity while in the brick and mortar school.

The administration says it is to target "at risk" children which, as I've explained to them .. publicly ... is no different than the kid that says he can't go to scho0ol because he feels nauseous.

It's all a hustle.

38 posted on 01/07/2017 3:49:26 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: knarf

It’s the cause of just about all our trouble, and the key to liberal “hypocrisy.”


39 posted on 01/07/2017 3:57:24 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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To: knarf
Well an' thin da presiden' he tol' me that he din' really want me to do anythin', that I was jus' a fingerhead, and that he had pickened me really just 'cause I was a Repulikin, an' not only that but 'cause I was the dumbest one a' the lots, and I said now you wait jus' a daggone minnut 'cause Thad Cochrane is so dumb he's almos' ded, and John McCain is even dumber than he is mean, and--and then he slapt me and tol' me to shut my dum peckerwad mouth, 'cause he was firing me, and he slapt me again and I have been sad ever sence...

Hagelian Dialect.

40 posted on 01/07/2017 4:08:06 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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