Posted on 12/28/2016 8:04:14 PM PST by TigerClaws
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I was talking with a guy today who said “Everyone used to call the land Palestine. That means it belongs to the Palestinians.”
I went a couple rounds with him, but it was pointless. He just thinks the Jews should leave. Sometimes I really hate MA. Okay — almost always.
He put it very well.
I see so many blaming this on Kerry. Kerry is certainly at fault but none of this would have happened without barack hussein obama.
Maybe Kerry threw his Bible over the fence along with his multiple Purple Hearts.
There never was a country of Palestine.
Never engage discussion with a moron. It’s a complete waste of time.
Now, how and where “Palestine” came from, well obviously, that’s not a subject he’s familiar with.
Eat you some nuance Kerry.
Kerry’s “Bible” is Rules For Radicals.
“...I went a couple rounds with him, but it was pointless....”
LJ’s Proverb #4: “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”
LJ’s Proverb #8: “Never argue with a moron. Those around you may not be able to tell the difference.”
His moral compass got de-magnetized many years ago.
It is interesting however to see old almanac type books with “Palestine and Related lands “shown ...Israel, Egypt and Jordan are included
It's interesting that Kerry's paternal grandparents were European Jews. Their name was "Kohn" which they changed to Irish-sounding "Kerry" when they immigrated to the U.S.
Kerry's brother, Cameron, married a Jewish woman, and he and their family are practicing Jews.
Kerry, 73, was a 70's anti-war activist.
He is a Roman Catholic, however, he is "open-minded" on religion, or "spirituality" as he calls it...and he believes the Koran, the Torah and the Bible "all share a fundamental story".
I admire non-self-hating Jews like Alan Dershowitz for speaking up on behalf of Israel after the Obama-Kerry sneak attack on this little island of democracy in the Mideast.
Leni
What do you want from a man who tried to get an annulment of his first marriage so he could marry Tah-ray-za in the church. He was willing to have his daughters declared illegitimate just to suit his own needs. Thankfully the church refused his request.
The Palistineans seem to be a troublesome subgroup of arabs who even the other arab countries want to deal with. From Middle East Quarterly:
http://www.meforum.org/3391/kuwait-expels-palestinians
Much has been made of the Palestinian exodus of 1948. Yet during their decades of dispersal, the Palestinians have experienced no less traumatic ordeals at the hands of their Arab brothers. As early as the mid-1950s, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Libya expelled striking Palestinian workers. In 1970, Jordan expelled some 20,000 Palestinians and demolished their camps; in 1994-95, Libya expelled tens of thousands of long-term Palestinian residents in response to the Oslo process; and after the 2003 Iraq war, some 21,000 Palestinians fled the country in response to a systematic terror and persecution campaign. As recently as 2007, Beirut effectively displaced 31,400 Palestinian refugees when the Lebanese army destroyed the Nahr el Bared refugee camp during fighting between the militant Fatal al-Islam group and the Lebanese army.[1]
But the largest forced displacement of Palestinians from an Arab state took place in 1991 when Kuwait expelled most of its Palestinian residents in retaliation for the Palestine Liberation Organization’s (PLO) endorsement of Iraq’s brutal occupation of the emirate (August 1990-February 1991). It mattered little that this population, most of which had resided in Kuwait for decades, was not supportive of the PLO’s reckless move: From March to September 1991, about 200,000 Palestinians were expelled from the emirate in a systematic campaign of terror, violence, and economic pressure while another 200,000 who fled during the Iraqi occupation were denied return. By September 1991, Kuwait’s Palestinian community had dwindled to some 20,000.
Yet while this expulsion was near the order of magnitude of the Palestinian 1948 flight (estimated by the Israeli government at 550,000-600,000 and by the Arab League at 700,000),[2] driving PLO chairman Yasser Arafat to declare that “what Kuwait did to the Palestinian people is worse than what has been done by Israel to Palestinians in the occupied territories,”[3] it was largely ignored by the international community with neither the U.N. Security Council nor the General Assembly doing anything to assist the newly displaced refugees and punish their ethnic cleanser.
Meant to say that even the other arab countries DON'T want to deal with. I think Arafat and his bunch were kicked out of northern Lybia before settling down to terrorize Israel.
Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then overwhelm you with sheer numbers.
The Jews there are as much “Palestiians” as are the Arabs.
Palestine was an area of historically shifting and fuzzy boundaries that between the WWs consisted of Jordan and Israel. Palestine means Philistine, a name that goes back a few millennia, but the Philistines are not there anymore. Jews have lived there continuously for 3500 years or so. The Arab and Berber population are more recent. Palestine was thinly populated and semi-arid with little agriculture except what the Jews managed to work. Jews started “returning” in the later 19th century and the rate of return has accelerated to the present. The lands they occupied were all bought and paid for in individual land transactions. No one was forced off the land, not even in the War of Independence.
Kuwait expelled them. The forming Israel told them to stay and be citizens, that they would not be dispossessed while the Arab neighbors told them to flee lest they be slaughtered. Those that fled lost their land. Those that stayed became citizens.
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