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[GonzoII]

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[Jim Noble]

the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three requires that someone who is "President-Elect" provide proof of meeting the eligibility requirements for President or Congress is instructed to name an interim President who does meet the requirements. The burden of proof is placed upon the person seeking the office.

That is 100% false. Congress is not instructed, in Amendment XX or elsewhere, what it must or must not do when counting the electoral votes to ascertain eligibillty.

[GregNH]

Not only did I verify that the BC's were not the same order before Zippo's announcement by 30 days but we went forward another month and with the same result, never the same or even in the same order. In one library on Maui I ran into this in July of 2012.

[GregNH]

I have been re-posting this for a few years now. There are a few issues here. The first is that the two political parties are private clubs. They have nothing to do with the process other than choosing a candidate. Now here is where it gets sticky. The political parties now combine the presidential candidate and vice presidential candidate. So technically there is no VP elect as there used to be when this amendment was written. So if something were to happen after the electoral vote then the "next person" who received the most electoral votes becomes president elect.

I would submit that you can't have a second person who receives the same number of votes. Meaning the VP on the ticket does not hold the 270 votes needed just because the presidential candidate dropped dead, for instance failing to qualify. There is no succession of officers who have not yet taken the office for which they seek. It clearly states "until a president shall qualify." Anyway the rest is from my earlier post.

The electors DO NOT QUALIFY CANDIDATES!

I have been on this 20th amendment thing since Oct 2008! Anyway I came across this old post. I never did get a response....

I came across this page a while ago and after reading the Q&A's I decided to email the person giving the answers. I have yet to receive a reply.

Electoral College Questions

From that page the first question is;

Question:

What happens if the President-elect fails to qualify before inauguration?

Answer:

If the President-elect fails to qualify before inauguration, Section 3 of the 20th Amendment states that the Vice President-elect will act as President until such a time as a President has qualified.

Then further down on that page is another question.

Question:

Who verifies if a candidate is qualified to run for President?

Answer:

The Office of the Federal Register at the National Archives and Records Administration administers the Electoral College process, which takes place after the November general election. The Office of the Federal Register does not have the authority to handle issues related to the general election, such as candidate qualifications. People interested in this issue may wish to contact their state election officials or their Congressional Representatives.

In light of this answer I emailed the contact for that page the following.

From: Greg XXXXXXX
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:23 PM
To: 'electoral_college@nara.gov'
Subject: US Code 3

On this page "Previous Questions of The Week." here http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/previous_questions.html

There are two questions I would like to address, the First one is "What happens if the President-elect fails to qualify before inauguration?" And the answer is correct as it states the process described in the 20th amendment and US Code 3 Sec 19. US Code 3 describes the process of counting the electoral vote for President and Vice President during a joint session of congress.

Then a subsequent question "Who verifies if a candidate is qualified to run for President?" That answer is not very specific. You mention the Office of Federal Register at the National Archives but go on to state it is a states issue. Well in section 11 we see the first mention of the Archivist. But there are three other copies of the certificates, one set being delivered to the President of the Senate. Then is section 15 we see that two tellers from each house previously selected and are handed the certificates for opening and are dealt with in an alphabetical order. It goes on to explain and clarify the counting process.

The word qualify does not appear until § 19 when it mentions the President "elect." This is because we have determined who the President and Vice President elect are. That is the point where qualifications are to be handled. In fact section 19 describes every different situation where someone other than the President elect would assume to act as President and in each case it also declares that that person needs to be "qualified". It is mentioned "nine" times! Now how can one think that any other person or body be responsible for seeing that in these different situations involving the qualification of the President and Vice President elect, or any of the other situation listed, be handled by but Congress?

I think there should be transcripts of some past joint sessions where eligibility is discussed. IE Chester Arthur for instance or maybe perhaps President number 10, John Tyler, who was one of the first NBC Presidents.

3 U.S. Code Chapter 1 - PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

• § 1. Time of appointing electors
• § 2. Failure to make choice on prescribed day
• § 3. Number of electors
• § 4. Vacancies in electoral college
• § 5. Determination of controversy as to appointment of electors
• § 6. Credentials of electors; transmission to Archivist of the United States and to Congress; public inspection
• § 7. Meeting and vote of electors
• § 8. Manner of voting
• § 9. Certificates of votes for President and Vice President
• § 10. Sealing and endorsing certificates
• § 11. Disposition of certificates
• § 12. Failure of certificates of electors to reach President of the Senate or Archivist of the United States; demand on State for certificate
• § 13. Same; demand on district judge for certificate
• § 14. Forfeiture for messenger’s neglect of duty
• § 15. Counting electoral votes in Congress
• § 16. Same; seats for officers and Members of two Houses in joint meeting
• § 17. Same; limit of debate in each House
• § 18. Same; parliamentary procedure at joint meeting
• § 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act
• § 20. Resignation or refusal of office
• § 21. Definitions

So there is the process listed. Why and when did Congress start stopping at section 15?

52 posted on 11/02/2014 9:04:56 AM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)

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I have been on this 20th amendment thing since Oct 2008! Anyway I came across this old post. I never did get a response....

[Uncle Sham]

They were threatened to the point of not acting. Period. This country has been frozen at the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three since Jan 20th, 2009. During that entire time span, everyone in Congress, the entire judiciary, and almost everyone in law enforcement along with the mainstream media has KNOWN we had a usurpation and done nothing about it.

[Uncle Sham]

You are an idiot.

[ResisTyr]

I mean "so what" because nothing will be done about this. That's why "so what!" The US Congress has a shortage of testicles! 😡

[Ray76]

I thought he was going to mention the different reel, surprised he didn’t

[palmer]

Zoom in to box 4 as far as you can, "if twin or triplet", and look at the boxes. Notice anything? The two boxes are pixel for pixel, exact copies of each other. There are other examples of this.

1st and 2nd are exact duplicates. So what? You don't think some wanker in the WH could have copied and pasted the box from 1st into 2nd just to waste a billion hours of time of yours and everyone else they hate? I do. I think the whole thing is a perfect case of information warfare and you are a victim.

[1066AD]

I read that the state of Hawaii refused to submit such a document so Pelosi wrote one herself.

[palmer]

IT IS UNEQUIVOCALLY A FAKE DOCUMENT

I don't have time to watch stuff like that, but I can give you a very plausible explanation. The document was real, sent from Hawaii. The document could have been generated from bad data in Hawaii or generated by a bad actor. But the document arrived in the mail at the WH and stated what we see in the scan.

Once inside the WH a staffer scanned the document, then proceeded to copy and paste boxes and letters. Alternatively some OCR SW could have done that for them simply by scanning, recognizing boxes and letters, then replacing them in a layer with boxes and letters that result in artifacts like the matching boxes (1st and 2nd) in box 4 in the form. Those perfect matches cannot arise from a scan, but could arise from post processing. The simple reason for the post processing is to waste the enemy's time. We are the enemy, they are wasting your time.

[Axenolith]

Precisely why the yawn. In the realm of “conspiracy theory” or alternate news or whatever we’re going to call it, you need rock solid evidence COUPLED with action within a few months of release. Otherwise the whole thing will just disappear down the eliteist/media rathole.

Also, you can’t have a simultaneous tenuous or vague “release” of something that is either meant to, or through serendipity, pushes it off the radar. Case in point there being the “pizzagate” stuff and the whacko that conveniently relegated the democRats documented proclivity for underage sexual adventures all to la la land. Notice how it appears to have completely deep sixed all the Clinton/Epstein stuff?

[ROCKLOBSTER]

The US Congress has a shortage of testicles!

Congress!!??

[rfp1234]

“Certificate” vs. “Certification”. Hmmmmmmmm......

[Conservative Gato]

Bump for later

[RitaOK]

.D

[elengr]

If the document was a simple scan of whatever was sent to the White Hut from Hawaii, then why is it not a simple flat document? Why all the layers? (ergo, you are either a fool, an ignorant tool, or an aka obama operative).

[elengr]

To Greg NH,

This photo is SO incriminating. Obozo is such a complete criminal identity fraud. Aka obama's deception of the American public is absolutely the biggest news story of this century so far and is certainly bigger than all the leftist fake news nonsense.

The list of aka obama's known identity crimes is long -- his social security number is recycled and likely is stolen, the pdf of his birth certificate on the White Mosque website is an obvious electronic forgery with its number likely stolen from dead baby Virginia Sunahara, his purported draft registration is bogus, when checked by the feral government's own e-verify, he was flagged as a probable criminal identity fraud, he claimed in his own biography via his own publicist for more than fifteen years (and through several revisions) to have been born in Kenya. These are undeniable facts and have been proven and thoroughly documented by Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his cold case posse as well as others.

So who is our putative president anyway? No one really knows. What we do know is that it is very unlikely that he was born when and where he claims and that even his true parentage is in doubt. Is he Barack Hussein Obama or is he Barry Soetoro (or Soebarkah) or is his true name something else altogether? Was he the baby that passed through his Kenyan "step grandmother's" hands or did he assume that identity, too? It is entirely possible that he may actually be an illegal alien, never having become a legitimate citizen (he certainly acts more like a citizen of the world rather than a true American).

Even if we are to believe his given life story, since his claimed legal father was a citizen of Kenya, aka obama was born with dual citizenship and does not meet the founding definition of a natural born Citizen, that is, from birth on, one must have had exclusive allegiance to the USA (never at any point to any other country). The only thing that is certain is that the man who is passing himself off as B. Hussein Obama is an illegal usurper who by rights should arrested, tried and convicted of criminal identity fraud and high treason, then be punished to the full extent of the law, stupidly misplaced white guilt notwithstanding.

[little jeremiah]

So who is our putative president anyway? No one really knows.

People do know. Much research was done. It is just not public.

[elengr]

Okay, I don’t know, but if you do, please, do tell.

I don’t know who aka obama really is, but what I do know is that he is a criminal identity fraud and an illegitimate, ineligible usurper who by rights should be in prison, not in the White Mosque.

So do tell, who is he?

Who really knows? Does Fred Nerks know? Do you know? Tell.

[SaveFerris]

How amazing — one of these is not like the others....

I am not surprised. No telling how much of the official narrative has been cooked up somewhere.