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Orange Coast College Student Threatened With Expulsion After Recording Professor’s Anti-Trump Tirade
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/12/08/orange-coast-college-student-threatened-with-expulsion-after-recording-professors-anti-trump-tirade/ ^ | December 8, 2016 11:47 PMDec 9, 2016 | staff

Posted on 12/09/2016 6:21:31 AM PST by rface

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To: Blennos

Gawd, if I ever found myself in such an awful place, I’d walk out just for my sanity.


41 posted on 12/09/2016 8:03:15 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (WaPo: A Fake News Site by their own admission.)
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To: struggle
"...Ron Mulanga Karenga..."

The inventor of Kwanzaa!

Where's my Kwanzaa motivational poster with the white girl lighting candles?

42 posted on 12/09/2016 8:19:09 AM PST by T-Bone Texan (Normal people do not play dominoes on pizza.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

Is it just me, or has Kwanzaa just quietly been going away
for the past several years?


43 posted on 12/09/2016 8:27:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Steve_Seattle

Pennsylvania, New Jersey and some other East Coast states have VERY strict wiretap laws which basically make it a crime to record ANY other party without their consent.

I imagine those were written to protect our elected officials in their conversations with Mafia bag men.


44 posted on 12/09/2016 8:28:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Kwanzaa is a component of the black separatist movement. Nothing more.

Maybe it was the open mockery of it in the last few years that did it in. No one takes it seriously, and I make a point, if somebody might be a Jew, of throwing that in when I wish them Merry Christmas and Happy Hannakkah. Folks get a laugh out of it.

Well, white folks, anyway.

Years ago I made a demotivational poster of a leftist-looking chick light candles with the text “Kwanzaa: The only holiday celebrated solely by white middle school teachers”.

It is my only claim to fame, so I’m running with it.


45 posted on 12/09/2016 8:35:30 AM PST by T-Bone Texan (Normal people do not play dominoes on pizza.)
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To: rface

“This is an illegal recording without the permission of the instructor. The student will be identified and may be facing legal action.”

Is this actually true? Does the college have a policy that bans recordings and requires that students not record and post lectures as a condition for good standing at the institution?


46 posted on 12/09/2016 8:35:36 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I have some Nigerian friends - there are a lot of Nigerian Engineers... Anyway, I asked one of them several years ago about Kwanzaa, and its relationship to Africa. His response was priceless.

He got quite animated, and started spouting off about “that fake s#!t”, and how it was made up by some idiot trying to make money or something. I love how the real Africans have such disdain for a lot of the foolishness the libs have made up.


47 posted on 12/09/2016 8:41:42 AM PST by HeadOn (OK. Let's get to WORK.)
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To: T-Bone Texan

Love the poster. Please see post 47.


48 posted on 12/09/2016 8:43:35 AM PST by HeadOn (OK. Let's get to WORK.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

More than likely it’s a FORCED required class. It’s how college administration’s keep the Liberal Arts departments employed because so few people really WANT to get a major in those fields ....mostly because of future pay potential.


49 posted on 12/09/2016 8:45:12 AM PST by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: grumpygresh

The lawyer will refer to it as intellectual property....just like copying movies or a favorite song without permission.


50 posted on 12/09/2016 8:47:22 AM PST by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: thingumbob

The property belongs to the purchaser that is the tuition paying student.


51 posted on 12/09/2016 8:48:49 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: bert

Hey dont get me wrong I agree with your statement, however, it doesn’t sound like that’s what the college is preparing to discuss with with the student.


52 posted on 12/09/2016 8:55:52 AM PST by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: bert

Btw, it would be funny if one of the kids parents or a relative turned out to be a lawyer accompanying the student when the college officials summon the kid for his reprogramming appointment


53 posted on 12/09/2016 8:59:02 AM PST by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: thingumbob
The lawyer will refer to it as intellectual property....just like copying movies or a favorite song without permission.

What is a college course, if not an agreement to share intellectual property for consideration? How can the party to the contract agreeing to share intellectual property restrict the use of it, if the party with whom said intellectual property was shared expects to benefit from it, in employment and social advantages? They can't, not without destroying the foundational reasons behind seeking and paying for a college degree.

54 posted on 12/09/2016 9:00:18 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: thingumbob

Well, the student does pay for the course, so why can’t they record if not otherwise specified. I also believe that this was a public institution, so the professor as an individual would not have the copyright.


55 posted on 12/09/2016 9:36:39 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: Steve_Seattle
If it is illegal, it shouldn't be. A lecture at a public college is a public event, not a private conversation, and the words of a teacher are intended to be remembered. What better way to remember them than to record them?

It's hard for me to believe that it is illegal, but I guess that would be a state-by-state legal matter. This is what was said in the article.

Thursday night, the professor’s union posted a warning on its page. It condemned the student who recorded the video saying, “This is an illegal recording without the permission of the instructor. The student will be identified and may be facing legal action.”

That's a teacher's union talking, so who knows what's legal. But it definitely should be legal for a studnet to record a college professor's lectures. If I were returning to college these days, I'd want to take notes and record the lecture for review in case I missed some parts.

I can see maybe restricting it to audio recordings because it could be disruptive with many students aiming their cell phones at the lecturer, but audio recordings should definitely be legal and even encouraged. And if visual aids were used, video would also be useful.

56 posted on 12/09/2016 10:19:02 AM PST by Will88
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To: rface

So yesterday we see an article where a teacher gets fired for saying “I disagree with abortion, but US says otherwise” as an example. He apparently offended the student and had ‘no right giving his opinion because he was a man’. Now we have a student offended by a political temper tantrum by a teacher.... and the student faces expulsion for reporting it?


57 posted on 12/09/2016 10:24:03 AM PST by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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58 posted on 12/12/2016 7:20:13 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: struggle; T-Bone Texan
Lol, I had Clifton Snider and Ron Mulanga Karenga at Cal State Long Beach in the 90’s. So Cal is full of folks like that.

I had John Schmitz for a philosophy class at Santa Ana College in 1963.

59 posted on 12/12/2016 7:29:47 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: HeadOn
I love how the real Africans have such disdain for a lot of the foolishness the libs have made up.

Good story. I've often wondered what authentic Africans thought about this fraud holiday.

Kwanzaa is cobbled together out of bits and pieces appropriated from Western tradition, weirdly disembodied and out-of-context ... then superficially glazed over with a pseudo-African theme.

I doubt the holiday's inventor even knew what the concept of "first fruits" means. He probably thought it sounded cool (and hey, holiday celebrations have to involve food somehow).

60 posted on 12/12/2016 7:33:31 PM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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